FIRST Fuel Injection system GROUP PURCHASE!!!
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,566
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From: Mt Laurel NJ
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Howdy guys...
I sended Ken and email.....I think I will be in....I only have a couple of open question.....thanks to all guys here, for taking care about it....
I have to say, its really cool and informative place here....big thumbs up from a corvette budy from overseas...
Or could be somebudy, here can answer my questions..
I have a 88
.) whatz about the cold start injector (I quess I have to get rid of it)
.) I can not see a place where the pressure reg. goes?
.) in some threads I was reading that we will be able to use the org....you used a short name for it, I can not remember it know...something like THD....or so....but I quess you talked about the new or T-piece...or thermostate housing, right?
best regards
Ralph
I sended Ken and email.....I think I will be in....I only have a couple of open question.....thanks to all guys here, for taking care about it....
I have to say, its really cool and informative place here....big thumbs up from a corvette budy from overseas...
Or could be somebudy, here can answer my questions..
I have a 88
.) whatz about the cold start injector (I quess I have to get rid of it)
.) I can not see a place where the pressure reg. goes?
.) in some threads I was reading that we will be able to use the org....you used a short name for it, I can not remember it know...something like THD....or so....but I quess you talked about the new or T-piece...or thermostate housing, right?
best regards
Ralph
The FIRST intake need a remote fuel pressure reg. You can buy one on Ebay or from Summit.
You mean the ERG? The answer is yes you can use it with the new intake.
You can use your old thermostate housing w/ the new intake.
Randy
Sorry for the spelling, I am a little drunk.
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 187
Likes: 70
Howdy guys...
I sended Ken and email.....I think I will be in....I only have a couple of open question.....thanks to all guys here, for taking care about it....
I have to say, its really cool and informative place here....big thumbs up from a corvette budy from overseas...
Or could be somebudy, here can answer my questions..
I have a 88
.) whatz about the cold start injector (I quess I have to get rid of it)
.) I can not see a place where the pressure reg. goes?
.) in some threads I was reading that we will be able to use the org....you used a short name for it, I can not remember it know...something like THD....or so....but I quess you talked about the new or T-piece...or thermostate housing, right?
best regards
Ralph
I sended Ken and email.....I think I will be in....I only have a couple of open question.....thanks to all guys here, for taking care about it....
I have to say, its really cool and informative place here....big thumbs up from a corvette budy from overseas...
Or could be somebudy, here can answer my questions..
I have a 88
.) whatz about the cold start injector (I quess I have to get rid of it)
.) I can not see a place where the pressure reg. goes?
.) in some threads I was reading that we will be able to use the org....you used a short name for it, I can not remember it know...something like THD....or so....but I quess you talked about the new or T-piece...or thermostate housing, right?
best regards
Ralph
Regulator - as said earlier you need an external one that'll go on the outlet side of the fuel rail - not sure on the fittings you'll need on a vette.
"short name" - if it's not the EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve,,, maybe you're talking about the TPS (throttle position sensor)?? You can use the original with the bracket that I believe is supplied with the FIRST purchase.
If you're talking about the IAC (idle air control) valve, the original screws right into the FIRST T/B.
If you're talking about the IAT (inlet/intake air temp),,, or MAT (manifold air temp) sensor,, on the 3rd gen f-body,,, they screw into the bottom of the stock TPI plenum. There is no provision for this in the FIRST's plenum. I spliced the wires and did a relocation mod to the air filter box - which a lot of folks do anyway on the stock TPI - Very easy to do. Some applications have this sensor in the air boxes from the factory,,, not sure about the Vette.
Pro
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 658
Likes: 1
From: Centerville OH
If you're talking about the IAT (inlet/intake air temp),,, or MAT (manifold air temp) sensor,, on the 3rd gen f-body,,, they screw into the bottom of the stock TPI plenum. There is no provision for this in the FIRST's plenum. I spliced the wires and did a relocation mod to the air filter box - which a lot of folks do anyway on the stock TPI - Very easy to do. Some applications have this sensor in the air boxes from the factory,,, not sure about the Vette.
Intermediate
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 38
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cold-start - you'll need a new chip. Depending on your mods, you may be able to use a stock 89 chip since they don't have the cold-start injector.
I have already a moates setup, so I will be able to tune and deactived the injector, I quess..
Regulator - as said earlier you need an external one that'll go on the outlet side of the fuel rail - not sure on the fittings you'll need on a vette.
perect, thats a easy one...thanks guys
"short name" - if it's not the EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve,,, maybe you're talking about the TPS (throttle position sensor)?? You can use the original with the bracket that I believe is supplied with the FIRST purchase.
If you're talking about the IAC (idle air control) valve, the original screws right into the FIRST T/B.
If you're talking about the IAT (inlet/intake air temp),,, or MAT (manifold air temp) sensor,, on the 3rd gen f-body,,, they screw into the bottom of the stock TPI plenum. There is no provision for this in the FIRST's plenum. I spliced the wires and did a relocation mod to the air filter box - which a lot of folks do anyway on the stock TPI - Very easy to do. Some applications have this sensor in the air boxes from the factory,,, not sure about the Vette.
I have already a moates setup, so I will be able to tune and deactived the injector, I quess..
Regulator - as said earlier you need an external one that'll go on the outlet side of the fuel rail - not sure on the fittings you'll need on a vette.
perect, thats a easy one...thanks guys
"short name" - if it's not the EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve,,, maybe you're talking about the TPS (throttle position sensor)?? You can use the original with the bracket that I believe is supplied with the FIRST purchase.
If you're talking about the IAC (idle air control) valve, the original screws right into the FIRST T/B.
If you're talking about the IAT (inlet/intake air temp),,, or MAT (manifold air temp) sensor,, on the 3rd gen f-body,,, they screw into the bottom of the stock TPI plenum. There is no provision for this in the FIRST's plenum. I spliced the wires and did a relocation mod to the air filter box - which a lot of folks do anyway on the stock TPI - Very easy to do. Some applications have this sensor in the air boxes from the factory,,, not sure about the Vette.
And Ken answered me that this would be the case...
I am 100% in, for the forum group deal, I am in contact with Ken, regarding payment (Europeen credit card?) I will post, when the deal is closed...
Looking forward to the sweety...I am looking for a long time know, after different options for intakes.....thats perfect for what I wanna do with the care (spec. price visa compared to SR)
next question for you guys
My setup is or will be
-) home made exhaust system (headers more and less a TPIS copy + spec. Y-pipe to geet rid of the pre cats + two sheap mufflers from ecklers
-) ported org. head, valve job, higher compression ratio
-) first TPI setup
so nothing spec, have to keep the cost low, but what I need to make it working. is a the right setup for the valve train.
What would be your suggestion regarding
-) cam shaft (timing, lobe, lift and brand)
-) spring rates
-) rocker arms , ratio
I would prefer to buy a whole setup, like the LT4 hot cam..
Or what is your thinking about what is the best bang for the buck
thanks guys
Instructor
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 179
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From: chicago Il
first
Count me in, I sent first an e-mail last night but have not heard back yet. I am buying the zz383 motor for my 88 vert in the spring and I dont want to miss out on this deal. I will try emailing him directly when I get home from work.
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,566
Likes: 4
From: Mt Laurel NJ
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
I believe the ZZ383 motor from GM has the Fast Burn heads, you may need the vortec intake for that motor. Something to look into.
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From: Arab Alabama
Happy New Year to everyone and it is time to put this GP to bed. I hope everyone was able to get your orders in before the new year and I can't wait to read the threads about the improvements this intake made for each of you. Thank You to all that participated in this group purchase and to Evan (mechguy79) for getting it started. Have a happy and safe new year.
David
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