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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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I am starting to fix up my new 2009 C6 and need some help on the air cleaner system. What system do you guys think is the best. The Vararam snake charmer or the Killer beehive ram air system. I also am going to install the Corsa X pipe and the sport muffler system. After they are installed I need to find a way to get a tune made. I am in Alaska and we do not have a tuner. Got any ideas?
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I am starting to fix up my new 2009 C6 and need some help on the air cleaner system. What system do you guys think is the best.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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I would skip the exhaust, unless you just have to have the sound. Your power gains will be very slim to none. I personally have seen some poor reviews of the fit and quality of the Vararam, so I would do more research before buying.

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Originally Posted by oldmansan
I personally have seen some poor reviews of the fit and quality of the Vararam
Yes, I've seen a few of those as well.
But then again, I myself along with four good friends of mine ALL have the Vararam on our C6s/C6 Z06s and find no such problems with our units.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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I've had both, Vararam and Killer Bee...my vote would be Killer Bee due to better finish and cleaner install, plus the tuning seemed to be easier to dial in with my cam.
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The quality of the vararam could be better, no doubt. I bought mine because I got a SICK deal from one of the venders. If money is no option and quality is important you might want to look at the Breathless V2 Vortex from Ernie. He makes a quality piece and would probably be within a couple HP of the Vararam.

If all out performance is what you are looking for and aren't concerned with not having the best fit and finish......the Vararam is your ticket.

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But then again, I myself along with four good friends of mine ALL have the Vararam on our C6s/C6 Z06s and find no such problems with our units.
Of course. Seeing that perhaps one or more of those were custom built Vararams as opposed to the standard issue that is only available to the masses? A distinction I never see noted.
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Of course. Seeing that perhaps one or more of those were custom built Vararams as opposed to the standard issue that is only available to the masses? A distinction I never see noted.
Only one of them is somewhat custom and the alterations made to that one particular unit has much less to do with a difference in quality/fit and more to do with a change in airflow/filtration/size.
The other units I'd referred to were all bone stock, off the shelf Vararam Snake Charmers varying from only 4 months old to well over 3+ years old.
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I went with the Callaway Honker becuase of the fit and finish. If you are not ducting the cooler outside air there is not much gain to be had. There are tons of posts here on the subject. Just use the search function.
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I have personally seen two engines hydrolocked when the car was driven through standing water with a Vararam installed, none with a Killer Bee or K&N.

For all the Vram users who are going to jump on saying it's never happened to them:

You only have to observe something happening once to prove it CAN happen, but never seeing it happen DOES NOT prove it CAN'T.
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The Vararam will make more horsepower once underway, but they are both good units. As for hydro locking, you would have to drive thru some really deep water for that to happen. You can get a good mail order tune from Chuck Cow. Chuck is a proponent of the Vararam intake.
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Originally Posted by akmutt
Hi
I am starting to fix up my new 2009 C6 and need some help on the air cleaner system. What system do you guys think is the best. The Vararam snake charmer or the Killer beehive ram air system. I also am going to install the Corsa X pipe and the sport muffler system. After they are installed I need to find a way to get a tune made. I am in Alaska and we do not have a tuner. Got any ideas?
Thanks Jay
The stock LS3 intake is a good unit, what it lacks is cold air. Once intake air reaches 86 degrees F, timing starts pulling back resulting in a loss of hp. I have the Killer Bee and Beehive shroud. They are made of quality construction and help improve the throttle response. The Beehive with shroud cut outs ( as seen on Halltech's website) is a key factor in keeping intake air temps down. The installation is easy and your can return it back to OEM specs if needed.
Be carefull with aftermarket tunes, is 10 -15 hp worth voiding your power train warranty?
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Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
I have the Killer Bee and Beehive shroud. They are made of quality construction and help improve the throttle response. The Beehive with shroud cut outs ( as seen on Halltech's website) is a key factor in keeping intake air temps down. The installation is easy and your can return it back to OEM specs if needed.
What is this "beehive with shroud cut outs"? Once you cut the shroud, how can you return to oem specs without replacing the cut shroud?

Originally Posted by Mike's LS3
Be carefull with aftermarket tunes, is 10 -15 hp worth voiding your power train warranty?
Could bee (pun intended-I also had an aunt bee ), not to mention adding a Corsa Sports and/or CAI does not require a tune anyways.

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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Hey man check out halltech intake with beehive shroud and a vette air scoop. will work well. As far as catback exhaust, well worth it, sound is soo much better than stock and car will be much more enjoyable. Save your money on the corsa Xpipe for now and wait until you get a set of headers!
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Originally Posted by 6Speeder
I have personally seen two engines hydrolocked when the car was driven through standing water with a Vararam installed, none with a Killer Bee or K&N.

For all the Vram users who are going to jump on saying it's never happened to them:

You only have to observe something happening once to prove it CAN happen, but never seeing it happen DOES NOT prove it CAN'T.
That's true...then again one has to wonder that if it's really that impossible to get water into a Killer Bee or K&N then wouldn't it also be difficult to get any air into them as well?

For all of the Killer Bee or K&N users who are going to jump on saying that their intakes get plenty of air remember, you only have to observe one air intake not receiving enough air to prove that it doesn't receive any air but never seeing an air intake starved for air DOES NOT prove that it ISN'T starved.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
then again one has to wonder that if it's really that impossible to get water into a Killer Bee or K&N then wouldn't it also be difficult to get any air into them as well?
Not you. Its a dead giveaway you have a DEng engineering degree.
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