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Yep! Time for a new thread. The new thread should be NCCO #52........................................ ........................................ ........................................ ........................................ ................................
Last edited by FRISKY; May 13, 2011 at 01:36 PM.
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If you don't mind me asking, what mods are you doing? 
EDIT: I just saw that you are doing the intake/injectors/throttle body and MAF.
I did a little research on-line last night, and from what I have read you may only need to do a crank relearn if it's a brand new PCM. If it's a used one from another car, you may not have to do it.
If you just need to get your car to the local tuner, why not just grab the tune from your current PCM and give it to the local tuner to tweak? I don't know what ECS charges for a mail order tune, but for the cost of the new PCM and the tune, I would think that you could just buy two credits on HP Tuners ($100) and then just give the file to ECS or your local tuner to tweak enough to get you into the shop and go from there.
Unless you have been doing some seriously radical things to your engine, that may not even be necessary... but without knowing what you are doing, it's hard to say one way or another. If it's just heads/intake/MAF/headers then it's not going to be a big deal to adjust it where you can get it to the shop. A new cam might make it a bit more interesting, but nothing we can 't handle. I don't mean to sound like tuning is a piece of cake because it's not... but it's not voodoo magic, either.
I have HP Tuners so if you want to copy your tune and send it off, or just tweak it ourselves, just let me know and I'll help you out.
EDIT: I just saw that you are doing the intake/injectors/throttle body and MAF.
I did a little research on-line last night, and from what I have read you may only need to do a crank relearn if it's a brand new PCM. If it's a used one from another car, you may not have to do it.
If you just need to get your car to the local tuner, why not just grab the tune from your current PCM and give it to the local tuner to tweak? I don't know what ECS charges for a mail order tune, but for the cost of the new PCM and the tune, I would think that you could just buy two credits on HP Tuners ($100) and then just give the file to ECS or your local tuner to tweak enough to get you into the shop and go from there.
Unless you have been doing some seriously radical things to your engine, that may not even be necessary... but without knowing what you are doing, it's hard to say one way or another. If it's just heads/intake/MAF/headers then it's not going to be a big deal to adjust it where you can get it to the shop. A new cam might make it a bit more interesting, but nothing we can 't handle. I don't mean to sound like tuning is a piece of cake because it's not... but it's not voodoo magic, either.
I have HP Tuners so if you want to copy your tune and send it off, or just tweak it ourselves, just let me know and I'll help you out.
my mods areported fast 92 manifold
ported ls2 tb
kooks 1 7/8 headers
kooks x pipe offroad
85mm maf
bosh III ls1 injectors 36 flow rate at 58psi
ECS mai orders are 139 I did install a wideband so I could at least check my afr w/o a dyno tune. Actually the pcm is Delco remanufactured unit so it may not need a relearn on the crank sensor? The local tuner says it really needs a dyno...but I need to replace my master cylinder to the tick m/c that I purchased. After the header install I am getting the pedal sticking to the floor at wot...not extremely bad yet, so I hope my clutch is fine. I really don't want to get a dyno until I get all the kinks worked out and the new m/c installed.
Last edited by Bullet Proof; May 13, 2011 at 09:30 PM.
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I really do appreciate your help and insight. I have thought about buying hp tuners....but I have heard that it has a long learning curve. I don't think it would be too big of deal but I am not a tuner either my mods are
ported fast 92 manifold
ported ls2 tb
kooks 1 7/8 headers
kooks x pipe offroad
85mm maf
bosh III ls1 injectors 36 flow rate at 58psi
ECS mai orders are 139 I did install a wideband so I could at least check my afr w/o a dyno tune. Actually the pcm is Delco remanufactured unit so it may not need a relearn on the crank sensor? The local tuner says it really needs a dyno...but I need to replace my master cylinder to the tick m/c that I purchased. After the header install I am getting the pedal sticking to the floor at wot...not extremely bad yet, so I hope my clutch is fine. I really don't want to get a dyno until I get all the kinks worked out and the new m/c installed.
my mods areported fast 92 manifold
ported ls2 tb
kooks 1 7/8 headers
kooks x pipe offroad
85mm maf
bosh III ls1 injectors 36 flow rate at 58psi
ECS mai orders are 139 I did install a wideband so I could at least check my afr w/o a dyno tune. Actually the pcm is Delco remanufactured unit so it may not need a relearn on the crank sensor? The local tuner says it really needs a dyno...but I need to replace my master cylinder to the tick m/c that I purchased. After the header install I am getting the pedal sticking to the floor at wot...not extremely bad yet, so I hope my clutch is fine. I really don't want to get a dyno until I get all the kinks worked out and the new m/c installed.
My Wallet is SOOOO glad that I have know idea what you guys are talking about!!!!!!!
note to Wallet: I am listening quietly in the background
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