call it what u want i have seen enough fords parked because they have too many problems an not only mustangs because u used to have a duramax an all the powerstrokes were blowing head gaskets an all but under 60lbs of bust an no head studs my dmax never had a problem running 11s all day an towing a trailer to everyone of my motorcross races so i have my reasons,i drink koolaid but not hater-aid or fanboy koolaid,sorry not like the others looking for a group i run solo all day an dont plan to change hommie

 

good for youhave another

 

Great video of the overall capabilities of this car. Ford really did well with this one. 583RWHP in this video. That is exactly what I thought this car would put out. Not sure where all the 600+ dyno numbers are coming from. I understand all dynos are different.

 

No doubt in my mind the new Z06 WILL have boost. No more 427's....

 

Maybe. Not 100% sold they will go supercharged with a car designed for a road course.

If they are sticking with the theme they have, and with the potential of DI motors, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go with agressive engine package again. Maybe not increased dispacement, but a more agressive heads and cam package, maybe more c5zish or boss packages. Obviously really focusing on handling/braking and weight.

If they only get about 470 from the stock 6.2, I wouldn't be suprised to see 525-550 by being more aggressive with the same dispacement, considering the DI. Big power potential with DI. Hyundai is getting 348hp out of a v6 in a daily driver type car.

 

It's hard to predict anymore what a mfr will do, but I agree that forced induction is probably over rated. I agree that when they go for really big power, like over 600 that forced induction starts to make sense simply because it's easier and more cost efficient to take an existing engine and boost it. But getting 500-525 hp out of a normally aspirated small block engine should not be that big of a deal anymore with DI and Variable Valve Timing.

 

They clearly dyno the car in third in that video. 4th is 1:1. I took my car to two different dynojets the day I got it. One showed 601 rwhp, the other showed 613 rwhp.

 

more on my post above

c5 had 350, c5z 405- gained an extra 55HP by just adding a very mild heads cam pacakge on only a 346

C6 400/430/436 c6z 505 gains 71hp over the ls3 w npp

Really depends on what heads/cam they go with on the c7, but one could argue that if they gained 55 hp putting a mild package on the C5z, then you'll gain at least that much with a more agressive Heads/Cam package on a DI 6.2. Pretty moot arguement at this point though.

Many people "in the know" think that the C7 will have ~470. I think if around 470 it would be a pretty mild setup. I was talking to my dad and told him that the only way the new motor makes under 500 is if they specifically try to do that. The GM 3.6 claimed a 15% increase in power in just switching to DI, still on 87 octane. Gained a solid 50hp on a V6 Even more when they tweaked a couple of things. Apply that 15% to 436 and you get 501. Wouldn't be suprised to see a 476hp C7 to say they gained 50ish hp over the last model, very similar to what the c5 and c6 did, and do it on 87 octane.

Crank up the heads/cam/tune/intake/exhaust and I don't see how the thing wont hit 525-550 on 91, presuming the base is on 87.. Which would be a 50-75hp improvement, while adding no weight.

Adding a blower could easily add 100lbs to the car. Considering the Z06 is supposed to be lighter and more balanced than the stock car that could be a big strike against it.

Just my thoughts, and maybe what I'd like to see on the Z06. The idea of having a cheaper corvette available I could afford, adn the mod potential of that is VERY exciting though.

 

3rd would have shown higher, right? Maybe they did it in 5th?

 

"It's hard to predict anymore what a mfr will do, but I agree that forced induction is probably over rated. I agree that when they go for really big power, like over 600 that forced induction starts to make sense simply because it's easier and more cost efficient to take an existing engine and boost it. But getting 500-525 hp out of a normally aspirated small block engine should not be that big of a deal anymore with DI and Variable Valve Timing."

About 15 years ago, Saab won an event at Pikes Peak with a 2.0 liter turbo-charged four cylinder that made over 700 hp. Getting ~500 hp out of an engine with more than twice the displacement is not such a big deal when one considers this. Saab's mistake was to align itself with GM. Their engine control, turbocharging, and variable compression research on small displacement engines was second to none. It all went down-hill when GM took control.

 

Agreed. If they're aiming to keep the Z as the most track-oriented option I think they'll stay N/A. Too bad the Z won't be coming till at least 2014. Till then it's all just speculation.

 

He said he wasn't sure where all the 600rwhp numbers came from. As far as I know, mine was the first consumer 2013 GT500 that was put on the dyno. I took it to two different dynojet dynos and it made over 600 on both (including Livernois Motorsports), on a car with just about 100 miles on it. This is in addition to the 609 rwhp dyno number the first magazine got when putting it on the dyno. All of those runs were done in 4th.

 

is yours the blue one??


I know what you're saying. I'm saying if a car was dynoed in third, it would show higher numbers, not lower numbers. So a car that dyno'd 583hp in the wrong gear would have been in 5th, not 3rd.

 

It's amazing that the "out of date" C6 Z06 just whipped every performance car put up against it in a recent track comparison. The F458 was even put down. Mustang? LOL

 

Yeah but that comparo was with the full monty...i.e. Carbon bits, Z07 with sport cups, mag suspension and CC brakes. $90K-ish

 

oh come on

The Ferrari cost 230k

but its not fair that the z06 had all the performance options and cost 90kish as you say?

 

Mustang and Corvette should not be in the same sentence and it now is so lol Mustang? I think not more like watch your back Z06 and bye bye LS3 C6.

 

Huh???...

My point is not comparing the Z against a Ferrari, we all know the price point of those, "and" that the Z eclipses their performance.

We're talking about other cars in the Z's price range. There are more choices out there now than there has ever been...for the same or "less" money with similar performance.

Isn't that the topic of this thread?......

 

That's if there will even be a C7 Z06, I'm not so sure there will be...I still think the new C7 line up might eventually read as more along the lines of:

a base car (coupe and convertible)
a Grand Sport type model (coupe and convertible)
and then possibly a ZR1 model (coupe only)

For some reason I get the impression that there will not be a Z06 during the C7 era.
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Hmm, the "Yea, but" part made me think you were saying it was a knock agaisnt the Vette.

My bad.