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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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I disagree. I think the moment it becomes less expensive to fix the problem instead of hide it is when GM will do something. A class action lawsuit will do just that.
Exactly the point of this post. - when GM sees its less expensive to fix the problem thats when they will address the issue. The only time you can cause a big company to blink and take notice is when you show them an Obtuse number.
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Just got back from SEMA. GM rep said he had heard absolutely nothing about any valve problems with the LS 7. But talked to other head and valve manufactures there, and they were all fully aware of the problem.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Just got back from SEMA. GM rep said he had heard absolutely nothing about any valve problems with the LS 7. But talked to other head and valve manufactures there, and they were all fully aware of the problem.
Of course the head and valve companies will be all over this since they want to sell their products. Makes sense to me that they will pander to fear and uncertainty because that is how they make money.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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Just got back from SEMA. GM rep said he had heard absolutely nothing about any valve problems with the LS 7. But talked to other head and valve manufactures there, and they were all fully aware of the problem.
Had heard nothing?

But we have had GM representatives give us phone numbers and emails so that we can get case numbers.

How could he have not heard anything when we all have?

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Of course the head and valve companies will be all over this since they want to sell their products. Makes sense to me that they will pander to fear and uncertainty because that is how they make money.
Seems to me that they may have come in here to pacify some of us, by offering us "case numbers" and such, to make it look like they were going to do anything other than what they have already about this matter, but "officially" and "internally, show no intentions of doing anything about this matter. They don't even bother to tell one of their reps headed to the SEMA show. The "premier automotive specialty products trade event in the world".

I'm wondering how GM's rep at SEMA would not know anything at all about this issue, and what has transpired over the last two months, with GM's announcement in here that there had been a problem with 2008-2011 cars.

Not the mismachined guides, nothing.

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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
I'm wondering how GM's rep at SEMA would not know anything at all about this issue, and what has transpired over the last two months, with GM's announcement in here that there had been a problem with 2008-2011 cars.

Not the mismachined guides, nothing.
I don't know of any "official GM announcement". Everything reported on this forum has been hearsay and written by a forum member. Hardly anything official with a name and position attached to it. Unless of course I have missed something here.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
I don't know of any "official GM announcement". Everything reported on this forum has been hearsay and written by a forum member. Hardly anything official with a name and position attached to it. Unless of course I have missed something here.
There are two supposed GM reps in the sticky thread that stated 09-11 cars may have incorrectly machined guides.

However it is an obvious lie. New cars have had the issue and 06-08 obviously have the issue. Their QC in their guides isn't good enough.

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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
I don't know of any "official GM announcement". Everything reported on this forum has been hearsay and written by a forum member. Hardly anything official with a name and position attached to it. Unless of course I have missed something here.
I think that you must have.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1582048497
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Varmit
Just got back from SEMA. GM rep said he had heard absolutely nothing about any valve problems with the LS 7. But talked to other head and valve manufactures there, and they were all fully aware of the problem.
Funny to hear that. Last year, Jimman came back from SEMA and said everyone he talked to said the only possible explanation that valves were dropping is because the drivers missed shifts. Now, some of them (I guess except GM) are fully aware of the problem. Amazing what can happen in one year's time.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 06:06 AM
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Funny to hear that. Last year, Jimman came back from SEMA and said everyone he talked to said the only possible explanation that valves were dropping is because the drivers missed shifts. Now, some of them (I guess except GM) are fully aware of the problem. Amazing what can happen in one year's time.
You beat me to it, I was going to mention someone went to SEMA last year and asked the same types of questions.

I'd think the simple fact that people have asked these types of valve questions for no less than 5 years now, people would have to be generally aware that there is, at the very least, a sizeable group of people concerned about the possibility of a valve train problem.

I've was first made aware of the problem before I even had my Z. Sometime in late 2006, a guy who had a C6Z06 on one of the old mustang forums I used to visit informed me of the potential for valve problems. He was giving me a heads up that it could be a problem and should be something to consider since I was interested in getting a C6Z in lieu of building up my Mustang. The only difference was that the consensus back then was that the springs were breaking and then dropping the exhaust valve.

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we are suing for what ????????????
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hoefi
Funny to hear that. Last year, Jimman came back from SEMA and said everyone he talked to said the only possible explanation that valves were dropping is because the drivers missed shifts. Now, some of them (I guess except GM) are fully aware of the problem. Amazing what can happen in one year's time.
would you know who Jimman talked to or would jimman have a couple of names of companies or individuals from companies at Sema he talked to?
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ray24z06
we are suing for what ????????????
GM knowingly hiding a design defect or material defect in the production of its LS7 motors, specifically its valvetrain, valve guides, heads, leading to premature catastrophic engine failures. It would be for the recovery of additional expense owners of non-modified / non-tuned motors may incur or have incurred due to these defects. This recovery of expense would be due to engine repair, engine replacement or owners spending additional money for extended warranties in concern of a problem that an engine with correct design and with proper materials would not need. Specifically for an automobile that ranges in price from 75 to 100k.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
would you know who Jimman talked to or would jimman have a couple of names of companies or individuals from companies at Sema he talked to?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579140174

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...let-go-34.html

After one of the posts Jimman made, hoefi had the same concern that you did, as to whom Jimman had actually talked to.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579152026

Follow the rest of the posts in that thread.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579140174

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...let-go-34.html

After one of the posts Jimman made, hoefi had the same concern that you did, as to whom Jimman had actually talked to.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579152026

Follow the rest of the posts in that thread.
Thanks.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579140174

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...let-go-34.html

After one of the posts Jimman made, hoefi had the same concern that you did, as to whom Jimman had actually talked to.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1579152026

Follow the rest of the posts in that thread.
How do you do it? It's like you are one with the Internet.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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so no lawyers in here yet?? How about the member ' Lawdude ' ?
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Originally Posted by Varmit
Just got back from SEMA. GM rep said he had heard absolutely nothing about any valve problems with the LS 7.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
GM knowingly hiding a design defect or material defect in the production of its LS7 motors, specifically its valvetrain, valve guides, heads, leading to premature catastrophic engine failures. It would be for the recovery of additional expense owners of non-modified / non-tuned motors may incur or have incurred due to these defects. This recovery of expense would be due to engine repair, engine replacement or owners spending additional money for extended warranties in concern of a problem that an engine with correct design and with proper materials would not need. Specifically for an automobile that ranges in price from 75 to 100k.

a well-stated summary of the petinent issues...thank you.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RedZ4me
so no lawyers in here yet?? How about the member ' Lawdude ' ?
I think lawyers would not respond in a public forum.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo
I think lawyers would not respond in a public forum.
Never stoped him before...besides he thinks there isn't a problem...
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