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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Great info here; got a few more ?s:

How are the sensors placed OEM? is there a specific location for the sensor within the rim? Specifically, is there a particular place in the Cup rim?

Can you remove the sensors from one rim and replace them within another, so you don't have to do the relearn? Such as going from the 19/20 ZR1 rims to the 19/20 Cup rims.

If new TPMS sensors were used going to a new rim, can the relearn be done by your GM/Chevy dealership? As above, going to the ZR1 to Cup rims.

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Originally Posted by Drew03Z
Great info here; got a few more ?s:

How are the sensors placed OEM? is there a specific location for the sensor within the rim? Specifically, is there a particular place in the Cup rim? The sensors are attached to the valve stem assembly and get installed at the valve stem hole in the wheel from the inside.

Can you remove the sensors from one rim and replace them within another, so you don't have to do the relearn? Such as going from the 19/20 ZR1 rims to the 19/20 Cup rims. Yes, there would be no problem moving them from one style factory rim to another and then installing that wheel at the same locatiom (RF to RF, LR to LR, etc.)

If new TPMS sensors were used going to a new rim, can the relearn be done by your GM/Chevy dealership? As above, going to the ZR1 to Cup rims. Yes, and at any professional tire store. Some forum members have had issues with TPMS install, but it usually involved "unbranded" sensors or installers that didn't know what they were doing. I have two sets of wheels with sensors in all and have had no problem getting the relearn to work as long as my TPMS tool batteries are strong.

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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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TPMS is absolute BS. It really irritates me that you can't disable the system. I would make 20 hamburgers for the person that figures out a way to give us control over our own vehicles. ANYWAY - interesting story I was doing a drift event and had a set of rear wheels with no TPMS in them. The fronts had their sensors. The event lasted more than an hour and it never threw any codes or any indication on the DIC that i wanted a sensor reading. Very strange I was expecting it to intrude with AH. However, I turned all nannies off as soon as i pulled out of garage and then drove to the event site. I think that when you have it off from the beginning, the car may not be able to bring it back on by itself. I'm not sure. After drifting for some time and doing ebrake turns, the ABS system got really confused and was throwing codes. Then the ABS system stopped working! I was like, how can i get this to happen on command? If ABS doesn't work then AH won't work - hurray! It was asking me to service the AH system as well during this time period. The only way the car could stop me at that point would be to cut engine power which it never did. Next day after sitting over night everything was back to normal.

I will have to try the sealed tube and put 4 sensors I have sitting around in there. And sigh, go to discount tire, to get them to program them for me. I have two sets of wheels. The TPMS thing is such a pain. From Bob's earlier posts I had thought the sealed tube wouldn't work because of them not activating without enough centrifugal force but if others have had success I will try it as well.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Drew03Z
Great info here; got a few more ?s:

How are the sensors placed OEM? is there a specific location for the sensor within the rim? Specifically, is there a particular place in the Cup rim?

Can you remove the sensors from one rim and replace them within another, so you don't have to do the relearn? Such as going from the 19/20 ZR1 rims to the 19/20 Cup rims.

If new TPMS sensors were used going to a new rim, can the relearn be done by your GM/Chevy dealership? As above, going to the ZR1 to Cup rims.

Thanks
Here are a couple pics of the sensor and how it mounts in an OE rim - and they mount the exact same way in Cup wheels as all other OE wheels:







When you do the relearn procedure, the unique ID# of each of the 4 sensors is logged into the memory of the TPMS computer in the car.

After putting the car into the learn mode, you trigger each sensor to get it to transmit its ID# so it can be picked up by the TPMS and logged in memory.

When the car is put into the learn mode, the first sensor triggered is logged in as the Left Front, the second as the Right Front, the third as the Right Rear, and the fourth as the Left Rear.

If you do it in a different order they will still work but the display of pressure won't correspond to the correct location.

The sensors can be removed from the wheels and put into another set of wheels with no problem. However, if the locations are mixed up and a relearn isn't performed, then the DIC display won't correspond correctly either - i.e., if the one that was in the Left front gets put into the Right Rear, when the DIC says "Left Front 20psi" it will really be talking about the Right Rear.

So.....if you move the sensors either:
  • Make sure they get mounted in the wheels such that they will remain on the same corner of the car they were originally on - then nothing at all will need to be done

  • After the job is done just have the tire shop/dealership do a relearn procedure

  • Don't do anything - in which case they will still all work fine, but if locations were mixed up the DIC display will be mixed up as well


If a relearn procedure is required it only takes about a minute, and the dealership or any tire shop can do it for you.

Bob

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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks!! what a wealth of info.
Do the 2011 Z06's have the same TPMS that youre describing?
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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I just had new wheels installed and my TPMS is not resetting. I will take it over to the local tire store to see if they can reset it for me. Seems like a PITA.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew03Z
Thanks!! what a wealth of info.
Do the 2011 Z06's have the same TPMS that youre describing?
All C6's have essentially the same TPMS, although different model years may act slightly differently when running with no sensors.

The 2005-2009 use that gray sensor in the photos in my previous post.

The 2010-2013 use either a green or black sensor - either one will work, but the green one can be triggered by changing air pressure in the tire, but the black one can only be triggered by the signal transmitted by a TPMS tool:







The video below shows how to use a TPMS tool to do the relearn procedure in order to program the sensor ID#'s into the TPMS computer memory.

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Old Mar 20, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Bob,
Thanks a million for the video, just got my new wheels and tires and with my mechanic neighbor's TIPS tool, set the TPMS in about 90 secs. Really appreciate the post!
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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:55 PM
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What is a good TPMS programmer that will work with a variety of different vehicles?
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Old May 9, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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What is a good TPMS programmer that will work with a variety of different vehicles?
My buddy got this one: http://store.katechengines.com/katec...tool-p263.aspx

BEZ06 is the expert. I bought the one he used in the video above.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael_D
What is a good TPMS programmer that will work with a variety of different vehicles?
There are a bunch of TPMS tools out there.

Take a look at this thread and scroll down to post# 11 to see info about several various tools:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1583710058


If you still have any questions just ask!!

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Old May 9, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Thank you! Seeing how expensive these silly things are, I wanted to get one that would read more than just a few GM's.
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Old May 10, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
There are a bunch of TPMS tools out there.

Take a look at this thread and scroll down to post# 11 to see info about several various tools:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1583710058


If you still have any questions just ask!!

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Bob,

I have a Schrader 21210 that I used to train the TPMS in my '06 C6Z. I now have a '11 C6Z, will it train those sensors using the same process used on the '06?

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Bob,

I have a Schrader 21210 that I used to train the TPMS in my '06 C6Z. I now have a '11 C6Z, will it train those sensors using the same process used on the '06?

Thanks.
The 2005-2009 uses one model sensor, and the 2010-2013 uses a different model sensor.

Butt....all the C6 sensors just require a VLF continuous wave transmission to trigger the sensor.

I haven't used a 21210 in quite a while, but I believe you push the button to get different lights to illuminate on the top of the tool. IIRC, for the C6 sensors you push the button to get just the first light illuminated, and that means the tool will transmit a continuous wave.

So, you should be able to use your tool on the 2011 in the exact same manner as for your older C6.

Actually, two different sensors will work in the 2010-2013 model years. One is a green sensor that will trigger using a TPMS tool or by changing air pressure in the tire, and the other is a black sensor that will only respond to the transmission from a TPMS tool.

The green sensor was installed all 2010 C6's, and also any 2011 built in Dec 2010 or prior.

So....if your 2011 was built by Dec 2010, then you don't even need to use your TPMS tool - you can let air out of the tire to trigger the sensor during the relearn procedure.

However....the green sensor will also trigger using your TPMS tool, and that's a lot easier than letting air out and then pumping them back up.

Need any of the green sensors for a spare set of track wheels? If so I've got a set - $90 shipped for a set of 4.

Bob
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
The 2005-2009 uses one model sensor, and the 2010-2013 uses a different model sensor.

Butt....all the C6 sensors just require a VLF continuous wave transmission to trigger the sensor.

I haven't used a 21210 in quite a while, but I believe you push the button to get different lights to illuminate on the top of the tool. IIRC, for the C6 sensors you push the button to get just the first light illuminated, and that means the tool will transmit a continuous wave.

So, you should be able to use your tool on the 2011 in the exact same manner as for your older C6.

Actually, two different sensors will work in the 2010-2013 model years. One is a green sensor that will trigger using a TPMS tool or by changing air pressure in the tire, and the other is a black sensor that will only respond to the transmission from a TPMS tool.

The green sensor was installed all 2010 C6's, and also any 2011 built in Dec 2010 or prior.

So....if your 2011 was built by Dec 2010, then you don't even need to use your TPMS tool - you can let air out of the tire to trigger the sensor during the relearn procedure.

However....the green sensor will also trigger using your TPMS tool, and that's a lot easier than letting air out and then pumping them back up.

Need any of the green sensors for a spare set of track wheels? If so I've got a set - $90 shipped for a set of 4.

Bob
Bob,

Thanks for the info. My car was built 08/04/10, so looks like it has the green sensors in the wheels. It's Z07 so it came with ZR1 style Comp Grays. I also have an OEM set of ZR1 Chromes with practically new PS2 ZPs and purchased a set of sensors that were brand new off of a 2013 427 vert from a forum member some time ago to go in those wheels. I'm assuming from what I have read in your posts that they will work with my car (?).
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Bob,

Thanks for the info. My car was built 08/04/10, so looks like it has the green sensors in the wheels. It's Z07 so it came with ZR1 style Comp Grays. I also have an OEM set of ZR1 Chromes with practically new PS2 ZPs and purchased a set of sensors that were brand new off of a 2013 427 vert from a forum member some time ago to go in those wheels. I'm assuming from what I have read in your posts that they will work with my car (?).
Yes - they'll work!!

The sensors in your car should be the green sensors, and you can see the GM part# 15268606 molded into the case:




The sensors you got that are out of the 2013 should be the black one, GM part# 20925924:




Either the green or black sensor will work in any 2010-2013 C6.

However, only the green one will trigger by changing air pressure. They both will trigger with a TPMS tool.

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Originally Posted by BEZ06
Yes - they'll work!!

The sensors in your car should be the green sensors, and you can see the GM part# 15268606 molded into the case:




The sensors you got that are out of the 2013 should be the black one, GM part# 20925924:




Either the green or black sensor will work in any 2010-2013 C6.

However, only the green one will trigger by changing air pressure. They both will trigger with a TPMS tool.

Bob
Thanks! Checked and I have the 20925924 (black) sensors.

Thanks for all your help!!

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bez06,where is the video to relearn tpms for c5 corvette? Mine is a 2003.
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bez06,where is the video to relearn tpms for c5 corvette? Mine is a 2003.
This is the one he posted on you-tube for C6 if that helps you at all:

If not the Owners Manual should tell how to set it up for using a TIPS tool. PDF of OM may be available on line from Chevy for the C5.
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