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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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c7 under full acceleration in all gears the vette seems like it over loads, cuts out and then comes on strong. The cut out sounds like something is out of tune after every shift. seems to happen in the track mode mostly. I have the auto with the Npp exhaust. Is this normal or should I have this looked into? happens in first 4 gears I know of, going to fast to see if it happens in 5th and 6th. Trying very hard to keep my drivers license, not easy in this car I promise. any others having this occur?
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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My best guess is traction control kicking in. If your tires are cold (and less grippy), it's entirely possible that you are breaking traction under full throttle after each gear change and the car is cutting power.
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My bet is TC kicking in. Without it, the rears spin up fairly easily unless feeding in throttle.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 05:35 AM
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My best guess is traction control kicking in. If your tires are cold (and less grippy), it's entirely possible that you are breaking traction under full throttle after each gear change and the car is cutting power.
hopefully the tc can be turned off and see if that fixes the problem.
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hopefully the tc can be turned off and see if that fixes the problem.
It can be turned off... just be careful you don't end up in the ditch
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It can be turned off... just be careful you don't end up in the ditch
turned it off and forgot, not like my c5. almost uncontrollable. Some folks got a good laugh and I learned a lesson," don't forget you turned off!" kinda of like being on ice and hit from the rear. If you get my drift. pun intended. I was lucky.
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turned it off and forgot, not like my c5. almost uncontrollable. Some folks got a good laugh and I learned a lesson," don't forget you turned off!" kinda of like being on ice and hit from the rear. If you get my drift. pun intended. I was lucky.
Thanks for sharing your experience and make sure you file it in the top of your memory for future reference

Several years ago about this time of year there had been a late snow which created a few areas of the road with lots of ice/ packed snow but most areas were clear and dry. I was driving my 2006 3/4 ton 4WD GMC diesel pickup into the office early in the morning and had switched in and out of 4WD several times because of the changing road conditions. Coming out of one sharp turn on a 2 lane rural road I had forgotten I was not in 4WD and accelerated a bit too hard and the truck nearly did a 180 before I caught it-since then I have been much more attentive to the little indicator LED that shows drive mode!

If you are lucky nothing really bad happens from these little oversights and if you are wise you don't repeat them
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-t...down-w-a6.html

I would guess it's the TC intervening unless there is an issue with your car. If they aren't losing traction, the A6 cars shift and pull very cleanly.

One of our resident trolls (who hasn't owned a Corvette in 35 years) was running around the forum a few weeks ago telling everybody how A6 cars "bog" and "hesitate" based on a 0-60 video somebody posted. Unfortunately he was ignorant of the fact that the flashing TC light was indicative of tire spin and TC pulling power.
Next time you feel this, look at the instrument cluster to see if this is happening.
Notice no drop off after the shifts...all my passes have been in "Tr"ack mode:

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thanks for the reply. sounds like you have a stick shift. mine definitely does not sound like that. there is for sure a fall off and growl. and then comes on like gang busters. just not smooth like that, and it's a automatic. turned the anti slip and the t/c off. still there, pretty sure the tires are not spinning at those speeds. pls keep trying to guess I will take it to the shop but hate to have the guys monkeying with a new production car.
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thanks for the reply. sounds like you have a stick shift. mine definitely does not sound like that. there is for sure a fall off and growl. and then comes on like gang busters. just not smooth like that, and it's a automatic. turned the anti slip and the t/c off. still there, pretty sure the tires are not spinning at those speeds. pls keep trying to guess I will take it to the shop but hate to have the guys monkeying with a new production car.
My car (in the video) is an A6.
VNAMVET's A6 car runs just like mine. No drop off, crisp shifts. You're not running it in any of the PTM modes, are you?
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The stock calibration pulls a lot of timing in the shifts, it's transmission torque management. If you have the NPP exhaust, the tone is more noticeable with the valves open when this happens. This could be what you are feeling/hearing.
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Originally Posted by Mike@NewEra
The stock calibration pulls a lot of timing in the shifts, it's transmission torque management. If you have the NPP exhaust, the tone is more noticeable with the valves open when this happens. This could be what you are feeling/hearing.
+1

Mine will shift clean most of the time but other times it seems there is some torque management coming into play and it sounds like its hitting the rev limiter when it shifts - even though it shifted well before cutoff. Most likely when I really feel it there may some knock or something else pulling timing and the torque management pulling more timing makes it more obvious. Problem is with so many different modes, including the 'performance shift mode' becoming active its hard to nail down exactly whats going on just by SOTP. I havent done any data logging yet on one of these, been having fun just driving it.

As far as flooring it and feeling a hesitation, even at 70mph on a 80* sunny dry day the car will hesitate a bit if I floor it and it kicks down hard, click the traction control off and its fine. The traction control is pretty aggressive, but I have also had the tires break loose when it kicks down at 60mph on cold streets with the TC off so be careful if you turn it off.
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Originally Posted by Mike@NewEra
The stock calibration pulls a lot of timing in the shifts, it's transmission torque management. If you have the NPP exhaust, the tone is more noticeable with the valves open when this happens. This could be what you are feeling/hearing.
The stock calibration has been adjusted on the C7 for improved upshift speed. The C7 calibration has a "fuel cut" that eliminates torque for 100 milliseconds between shifts. This reduces shift time by up to 50% according to GM. The new calibration also allows the trans to run right to redline before upshifting (in auto mode).
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The stock calibration has been adjusted on the C7 for improved upshift speed. The C7 calibration has a "fuel cut" that eliminates torque for 100 milliseconds between shifts. This reduces shift time by up to 50% according to GM. The new calibration also allows the trans to run right to redline before upshifting (in auto mode).
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Should I take the c7 in for a calibration at the dealership? It does sound like a fuel cutout and then it comes on very strong! The sound is like it misses at the end of each shift(only on full acceleration) otherwise no other (nada) so far the funnist and most exciting car I have ever had, except for the new 69 olds cutlass S with 310 hp and i was 20 years young and crazy,had white w/blue vinyl top and buckets with factory mags and red line tires! sorry, got carried away old age kicking in.
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Originally Posted by Mike@NewEra
The stock calibration pulls a lot of timing in the shifts, it's transmission torque management. If you have the NPP exhaust, the tone is more noticeable with the valves open when this happens. This could be what you are feeling/hearing.
should it be calibrated?
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Originally Posted by kp
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Mine will shift clean most of the time but other times it seems there is some torque management coming into play and it sounds like its hitting the rev limiter when it shifts - even though it shifted well before cutoff. Most likely when I really feel it there may some knock or something else pulling timing and the torque management pulling more timing makes it more obvious. Problem is with so many different modes, including the 'performance shift mode' becoming active its hard to nail down exactly whats going on just by SOTP. I havent done any data logging yet on one of these, been having fun just driving it.

As far as flooring it and feeling a hesitation, even at 70mph on a 80* sunny dry day the car will hesitate a bit if I floor it and it kicks down hard, click the traction control off and its fine. The traction control is pretty aggressive, but I have also had the tires break loose when it kicks down at 60mph on cold streets with the TC off so be careful if you turn it off.
the c7 will not come on strong but has the same feel as my supercharged buick steady powerful and totally controllable no surprises
like the northstar all or none! Have done away with hesitation using this procedure.
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should it be calibrated?
If you want it to change, then yes, by an experienced tuner or course.
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