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Old 12-21-2016, 09:38 PM
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Does this jive? Shouldn't the date be earlier? Besides the fact that it looks like a restamp, wouldn't the "creator" do a better job at lining up the date with the VIN. Isn't that VIN nov/dec?

Old 12-21-2016, 09:45 PM
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That VIN is in the C2 registry, and shows a build date of 29 December 1962. So, the engine build date in May is a mismatch for the VIN.

The VIN derivative is stamped at a different time and place in the assembly process and has no connection to being lined up with the engine build stamp.

Curiously, that very picture you posted is one of several shown in the Corvette registry for that car.

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Right, the engine is built in flint and stamped. Then the engines are shipped to St. Louis where the are mated with the chassis and then stamped with the VIN. but didn't they use the engines as they were building the vehicle? Meaning a chassis that was built in say April would have an engine that was built in March even early April?
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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino
Curiously, that very picture you posted is one of several shown in the Corvette registry for that car.
And it's available...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Chevrol...m=231892688679

No affiliation, just surfing the bay and seeing what's out there and what's selling/not selling.
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Originally Posted by bluestreak63
Does this jive? Shouldn't the date be earlier? Besides the fact that it looks like a restamp, wouldn't the "creator" do a better job at lining up the date with the VIN. Isn't that VIN nov/dec?

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I agree on the date issue, and I think it's a restamp. And not a good restamp.
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Originally Posted by Critter1
I agree on the date issue, and I think it's a restamp. And not a good restamp.

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But, but the ad says it's numbers matching
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The "re-stamper" done screwed up!:

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Also, it's body number does not match up with the VIN.
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Skullduggery to be sure....steer clear....
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I think its way too nice to be original in my opinion.


This is a restamp block I bought. I think numbers look pretty good.


This is a terrible restamp that was on my block held put in place with JB Weld


This is what was underneath that restamp.
Looks like someone put their own numbers on it..
Old 12-22-2016, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk63Vette
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I think its way too nice to be original in my opinion.


This is a restamp block I bought. I think numbers look pretty good.


This is a terrible restamp that was on my block held put in place with JB Weld


This is what was underneath that restamp.
Looks like someone put their own numbers on it..
On your top picture you could tell it is restamp GM never did a straight stamp like that one.
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To return to the car in question, I looked at the current sale offering someone cited and to my great surprise, I found that very tag in one of Noland Adams' early reports, posted there as belonging to '63 cvt
#30867S104171. This is a SERIOUSLY INTERESTING CAR; BUYERS GET IN LINE NOW!
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
To return to the car in question, I looked at the current sale offering someone cited and to my great surprise, I found that very tag in one of Noland Adams' early reports, posted there as belonging to '63 cvt
#30867S104171. This is a SERIOUSLY INTERESTING CAR; BUYERS GET IN LINE NOW!
I'll pass.
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Opinions on whether this pad is original or not.
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
To return to the car in question, I looked at the current sale offering someone cited and to my great surprise, I found that very tag in one of Noland Adams' early reports, posted there as belonging to '63 cvt
#30867S104171. This is a SERIOUSLY INTERESTING CAR; BUYERS GET IN LINE NOW!
That is interesting and no doubt that that's where the trim tag belongs as the numbers line up perfectly when comparing to other cars.
Also interesting is that I recorded '63 cvt #4,171 as being a Black/Black 340 car. I wonder what trim tag it now has? It's still out there somewhere.
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Originally Posted by deejaydu
Opinions on whether this pad is original or not.
It looks pretty good. The R is odd as many are, since most stamp sets don't extend as wide as factory stamps often did. The partial VIN looks to have a slight angle on the 3, but being the end number, could **** a bit in the gangholder. Other factors match known good ones.

The pitted surface is unusual. I'd say no one faking it would have one looking like that, but then the other day, I read where some restamper does that on purpose to "age" them to look old and make people assume they are original.

The almost polished surface is odd, but not out of the question. People did strange stuff to cars long ago. It could be the pad was polished out from a rusted mess no one could read. If you get that rare Chevy that doesn't leak at least a little oil out on the engine, then you end up with one that can potentially rust pretty badly if it sits.

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Originally Posted by deejaydu
Opinions on whether this pad is original or not.
I am going to post a photo of my original pad to use for comparison.
They are dated within two weeks of each other.
If you compare, many of the characters look like the exact same stamp was used.

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Originally Posted by Rich Yanulis
I am going to post a photo of my original pad to use for comparison.
They are dated within two weeks of each other.
If you compare, many of the characters look like the exact same stamp was used.

Rich thanks for posting your original pad. Yes I agree with you that it does appear that the exact same stamp was used upon closer inspection. Especially the top left of the "R" gives it away for sure. I believe that this is an original pad. The motor and transmission were removed from this car when it had very low mileage and was stored in a non climate controlled garage for 40 years. That might explain the pitting on the pad. The car is still a low mileage car that just had a 70 model LT1 engine removed. The transmission is at the transmission shop for a good cleaning and rebuild if necessary and the shop also confirmed based on the condition and lack of wear and tear that it was also removed early on. The VIN is also stamped in the case and the date codes are late 62 which is correct for an early February built car.
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Originally Posted by deejaydu
.........the top left of the "R" gives it away for sure.
I always knew the "R" in my pad wasn't perfect, but I didn't give it a second thought.
Now looking at yours, it's exactly the same.

The actual stamp used 53 years ago must have had a chip or flaw in it!

I find this information very interesting.



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