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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 12:13 AM
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I hope he still has it
This thread is over 13 years old!!
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackbirdZ07
This thread is over 13 years old!!
LOL!!! I guess 68ACADIAN decided he waited long enough and it was finally time to put it to rest.

And its in the wrong section. It belongs in General, not For sale.....

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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 12:45 AM
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So I have kind of a weird one. I currently own a 1970 SS 454 ElCamino that was the 22nd car built in 1970 it has 2 codes on the trim tag that no book I have found can decode, but says it meant something special about the car, whatever that means.
Anyway the fenders still had the 454 emblems with original speed nuts, and not replacement fenders, or a re drill, all the body panels were the same original color when we stripped it.
Anyway it had a 427 in it, and we/I have always wondered if because of the strike, and the super early production of the car they used a few 427s in the early 70 productions because the 454s were not ready??????
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 05:36 AM
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So I have kind of a weird one. I currently own a 1970 SS 454 ElCamino that was the 22nd car built in 1970 it has 2 codes on the trim tag that no book I have found can decode, but says it meant something special about the car, whatever that means.
Anyway the fenders still had the 454 emblems with original speed nuts, and not replacement fenders, or a re drill, all the body panels were the same original color when we stripped it.
Anyway it had a 427 in it, and we/I have always wondered if because of the strike, and the super early production of the car they used a few 427s in the early 70 productions because the 454s were not ready??????
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Get a picture of the engine pad with the vin.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 07:55 AM
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Well it's an old enough thread but nobody said this so I guess I'll pitch my 2 cents in.

Guy never put up the block casting numbers. It could be the original 454 block if the vin stamp is legit somebody just put a tri power on it and called it an original 427 seems more likely to me.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
Get a picture of the engine pad with the vin.
Unfortunately it was .030 over, and the block was decked, but all the dates and casting #s were correct for the production date of the car. The other thing it had, and I still have it, is a GM part #ed Holley carb for a 425 HP 396 which is ultra rare, it also had, and I still have it, a LS-6 intake manifold which is a GM unit, not a reproduction.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by centuryoldracer
Unfortunately it was .030 over, and the block was decked, but all the dates and casting #s were correct for the production date of the car. The other thing it had, and I still have it, is a GM part #ed Holley carb for a 425 HP 396 which is ultra rare, it also had, and I still have it, a LS-6 intake manifold which is a GM unit, not a reproduction.
I figured as much.

I am reasonabley sure your engine is NOT original if it was a 427. One of the previous owners probably installed a rebuilt motor early on that happened to have proper dates/casting number

I have never seen any factory original 1970 Chevy with a 427 but have heard every story and they all end the same. No proof. Missing motors, redecked blocks and restamps are usually all part of the equation.

The rare parts are always nice to have.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alwyn678
I hope he still has it
I'm going to go with my instincts and knowledge and say that 99.9% that car didn't/doesn't exists!!
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
I figured as much.

I am reasonabley sure your engine is NOT original if it was a 427. One of the previous owners probably installed a rebuilt motor early on that happened to have proper dates/casting number

I have never seen any factory original 1970 Chevy with a 427 but have heard every story and they all end the same. No proof. Missing motors, redecked blocks and restamps are usually all part of the equation.

The rare parts are always nice to have.
I agree it probably was a 454 or they rebuilt it but the original block was damaged.
At any rate here is a picture of the beast with my 16 year old helper.
The car now has a 496 in it with modern roller cam etc.

It is also wayyyyyyy faster than when it was stock, and is one of my favorite muscle cars of all time. In fact it is the longest I have owned a car new, or old. I have owned it since 1998, but knew about it 20 years before that. I bought it and a 71 LS-5 Vette from the same guy as a package deal, the Vette is long gone.

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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 01:33 PM
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Very nice!
Great condition and I like the vinyl top.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ed427vette
Very nice!
Great condition and I like the vinyl top.
Thanks! Not my first color choice but since it is a original BB car I painted it the original color which does look nice. Quite a few BB cars had vinyl tops so I kept that original too.
I do all the restoration work myself including paint.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:28 AM
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it could have left the factory like that. Back then you could have about anything us copo. But its doubtful. If it was true the car would probably pull a million bucks at auction because it was the ONLY one. Either theres documentation of the order or its a fake.
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:32 AM
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cheif of police in our town back then brought home a brand new 70 with an ls6 and claimed back then it came from the factory. We found out later that the dealership had swapped motors out of an ls6 chevelle there body shop got in that was totaled with a 120 miles on it. truth didn't make it any slower though
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Can't be original motor. They went through this in the CAC a while ago. There was a Vette owner in Clearwater claiming he had a 70 with it's original LS-6. (No LS-6 Vettes built in 70), Another Forum member went over to see it and document it with some pics. Engine had no pad stamp, and he had no documentation as far as window stickers or build sheets whatsoever.
so????
These day's if your're going to try and pawn a one-off on me, you'd better be prepared to prove it. Doubting Thomas...... you bet!!!!
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have this Sun tune up card in my collection.

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Originally Posted by 2MQ

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have this Sun tune up card in my collection.
That means absolutely nothing.
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 07:44 PM
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Didn't say it did. I just thought it was interesting.
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Originally Posted by 2MQ
Didn't say it did. I just thought it was interesting.
I agree, it is interesting.

My comment was for the readers who may think it does mean something. I didnt want those readers to get there hopes up thinking they have a all original 1970 Chevy whatever with a 427 simply because its on a tune up sheet.

GM themselves had put out literature saying the LS6 was coming out in 1970 rated at 460hp in the Corvette if I'm not mistaken.
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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I've got one of them too. lol.
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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MQ

I've got one of them too. lol.
Very cool!

Now THAT would have been a wild car had they just went ahead and did it.
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