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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spearfish25
A Quickjack is a fantastic way to safely lift the car and is economical in comparison to other options. I've had car's fall off jacks while lifting them before and getting the vette on jackstands can be tricky until you find a good method with a jack that reaches various lift points well.


I had a Kwiklift for years and the QJ is a nice improvement. Portable, fast setup/teardown, and most importantly, safe. During lunch this week I disabled CAGS and changed the oil. My other car is a W212 Mercedes E550 and the 5000 pound QJ paid for itself replacing the rear Airmatic shocks. Mercedes charges $1,000 a corner.
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Following Rooster OG great advice I will powder coat my rims black but ofc I need to remove them in my garage and take them to the detail shop to get this done. I was wondering if I could have some advice here on how to properly lift up my Z51 and and remove the wheels.

I need a compressor to move the lug nuts or you guys use simple lug nut wrenches? Also, which jack stands do you guys use and do I need 4 of course?I need a car jack too right and where should I place it and the stands to properly leave it lifted while I remove them?

Please bare with me as I am new but trying to rapidly learn all of this to do it myself. I really don't want to mess up anything in this car. Thank you very much!
You need a low profile jack and with Z-51 just like mine is you can push the jack from the front of the car in between the 2 small spoilers and look directly behind the wheel there is a bar or Y( silver and part of the suspension system ) !!! You can use this for jacking the wheel up !!! I bought a portable battery impact driver because it's is the easiest to remove lug nuts and you will need a torque wrench and socket !!! Wayne
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
That drawing shows the places you can put jack stands.

After getting the service manual, it shows you can jack up single central points on the front and the rear sub-frames directly between the jack stand points.

I can find the pages when I'm at home.
that's interesting. I've always thought lifting the car up in between jack stand points on the subframe was a no-no due to hollow casting. I'd like to see the service manual you mentioned. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner
that's interesting. I've always thought lifting the car up in between jack stand points on the subframe was a no-no due to hollow casting. I'd like to see the service manual you mentioned. Thanks!
I've raised my Z06 up twice using the points LT1 Z51 has mentioned. No issues. Mine was on jack stands Thursday and Friday while I replaced the axle back exhaust. I had jack stands at all 8 points shown in the diagram. I know that's overkill but once you've been crushed by a car once, you'll make damn sure it never happens again.

Get a good low profile floor jack and sturdy jack stands and you'll be fine.
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner
that's interesting. I've always thought lifting the car up in between jack stand points on the subframe was a no-no due to hollow casting. I'd like to see the service manual you mentioned. Thanks!
Here they are:






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Someone awhile back posted how handy it is to use 2 jacks at the same time. At first thought the idea was dumb. But then the more I thought about it the more it made sense. Use 2 jacks at any of the points then slide in your stands. Gives you way more options. I am ordering another floor jack soon.
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[QUOTE=LT1 Z51;1594332061


Here they are:





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Thanks for the images!! Much appreciated. The service manual is for the c7, right? I only ask because there's a drawing of s c5 in the first image to the right. Thanks again!
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner
Thanks for the images!! Much appreciated. The service manual is for the c7, right? I only ask because there's a drawing of s c5 in the first image to the right. Thanks again!
It's a 2016 Corvette Service Manual.

But they do use the same pictographs from the earlier manuals. This is very apparent in many many GM service manuals. If the "general shape" has not changed, then they just carry it forward.

My old 2008 manuals had most interior drawings with the 2005 interior, unless it was about a part specifically updated (and therefore was not the same).

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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
It's a 2016 Corvette Service Manual.

But they do use the same pictographs from the earlier manuals. This is very apparent in many many GM service manuals. If the "general shape" has not changed, then they just carry it forward.

My old 2008 manuals had most interior drawings with the 2005 interior, unless it was about a part specifically updated (and therefore was not the same).
Thanks, bud!
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Old Apr 3, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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^^^ Good info LT1 Z51
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Here they are:

Thanks, will fix my pic!
Wonder why they changed?
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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 12:47 AM
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Photobucket recently started making people pay to use the img links on websites. That's why you see those all over car forums now. I'm pretty sure that's going to backfire on them big time.
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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Photobucket recently started making people pay to use the img links on websites. That's why you see those all over car forums now. I'm pretty sure that's going to backfire on them big time.
Was wondering about photobucket as many old forum pic posts don't work!

I have never used photobuket, no need the Forum keeps all pics from my prior posts. I just retrieve! If I need a new one, just pull from my computer(s.)

The photo I was referring to is my "Where to Jack and Use Jack Stands on a C7." Wondered why GM now allows.

This is my new modified pic:




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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryU
Was wondering about photobucket as many old forum pic posts don't work!

I have never used photobuket, no need the Forum keeps all pics from my prior posts. I just retrieve! If I need a new one, just pull from my computer(s.)

The photo I was referring to is my "Where to Jack and Use Jack Stands on a C7." Wondered why GM now allows.

This is my new modified pic:



Hope this isn't a dumb question but can you use the 4 pucks designated to lift the car on a lift to support the car on jack stands?
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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^^^
Only dumb question is one not asked!

Yep the dealer and tire store should use them.


DETAILED INFO:
The dealer may in fact have them along with many special tools they buy from GM but many are not widely, if every used! I'll explain:

Most mechanics have their own tools and especially the "newbie" working the oil change bay is NOT going to buy pucks for the few Vettes he has to do an oil change. IF the dealer has them, that means the mechanic must go to the parts department and signing them out and return! They often make commission on getting the job done quickly, in less time than GM allots for particular job. Getting pucks just takes time!

My Experience: Although I do my own oil changes, when I got my C7, GM sent a notice that I should have the dif fluid level checked. Brought it to my local Chevy Dealer. Knew the service writer from warranty work they did on my C6. I told her I had my jack pucks in a clear plastic bag on the passenger seat and to be sure the mechanic used them! She was a great and said, "Don't worry, I'll be sure we use our alignment rack (not one of their 12/14 center post lifts) as we just cracked a Vette rocker panel and I am having to schedule to have it repaired!"

If you don't have side skirts consider the flat semi-permanent jack pads. I need the 1 inch extra height.

PS: For my Grand Sport bought unique Jack Pads from forum vendor "Reverse Logic." They are used as normal "put in place when needed" but when having to bring the Vette into a dealer or tire store they can be bolted temporarily in place. Hopefully other than Discount Tire when I need new rubber I will only use them myself in the normal manner! No "hoping" they will be used when put on the passenger seat in a clear plastic bag as I have done with aluminum pads in the past!



Reverse Logic Jack Pads http://www.ReverseLogic.us
Remove white spacer and temporarily bolt in place.



Can extend the normal 1 inch height by 1/2 inch if needed.

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BTW, tightening torque for the C7 is; 100 lb·ft.
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I have not used these jack stands on my C7 as yet but had good luck with my C6.
http://shop.jackpointjackstands.com/

Please note that the jack stand pad shown in most of the photos on their page are not the correct ones for our car. They have a top which has an indention which the jacking pucks fit into w/o issue.

I would love to have the Quickjack but am not sure where I would store it or with my back issues how I would move it into place.
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Originally Posted by dbletap_ed
I have not used these jack stands on my C7 as yet but had good luck with my C6.
http://shop.jackpointjackstands.com/

Please note that the jack stand pad shown in most of the photos on their page are not the correct ones for our car. They have a top which has an indention which the jacking pucks fit into w/o issue.

I would love to have the Quickjack but am not sure where I would store it or with my back issues how I would move it into place.
Although they are a lot more expensive than ordinary jack stands I plan to buy a set as soon as they come off backorder. They are just about to begin production with the new tooling (casing) which they believe will increase production from 10 jackpoint jack stands per day to 100 per day.

BTW, the Jackpoint Recessed Jack Pads are the correct ones for the C7.

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Originally Posted by dbletap_ed
I have not used these jack stands on my C7 as yet but had good luck with my C6.
http://shop.jackpointjackstands.com/

Please note that the jack stand pad shown in most of the photos on their page are not the correct ones for our car. They have a top which has an indention which the jacking pucks fit into w/o issue.

I would love to have the Quickjack but am not sure where I would store it or with my back issues how I would move it into place.
Originally Posted by Maxie2U
Although they are a lot more expensive than ordinary jack stands I plan to buy a set as soon as they come off backorder. They are just about to begin production with the new tooling (casing) which they believe will increase production from 10 jackpoint jack stands per day to 100 per day.

BTW, the Jackpoint Recessed Jack Pads are the correct ones for the C7.
FWIW, I bought new Jack Pads for my C7 as even my 3 inch diameter aluminum C6 pads were hitting part of several rocker panels! This is what it says in the 2017 Owner's Manual, Page 222:
"Use only a service jack with a lifting pad diameter of 64 mm (2.5 in) or smaller, and thick enough to make sure the jack does not contact the vehicle body. Position the service jack and lifting pad under the frame rail shipping slot reinforcement."

On that same page is a CAUTION: The front jack pads must not contact the rocker panels, the front fenders, or the floor pan. If they do, damage may occur.

The Jackpoint Recessed Jack Pads say they are 3 1/2 inch diameter. I use my jack(s) to lift the car on the jack pads and then use jack stands on the proper referenced GM locations. Would appear if you use the Jackpoint devise you should still have 2 1/2 inch max diameter pads.

The Reverse Logic jack pads are 2 1/2 inch OD.

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