[Z06] What to do with 06z with blown motor
08-23-2017, 05:48 PM
#21
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Really?
It's a 12 year old 2006 and already at the bottom of the C6Z valuation curve. The average private sale is between KBB (@29K) and Edmunds (@26K) in good to very good condition. Of course, that means a good engine.
The OP is not keeping this one and has no need for a car while deployed in Europe. He wants to buy something with a warranty when he returns. His main concern is to stop the financial bleeding.
It's far better to install a used bulletproof LS3 for $4K and take a $4K hit on the value with a quick sale, than spend $8K for a used LS7 timebomb that the buyer will have to spend another $3K on heads to avoid a repeat problem. Either way the OP loses $8K, but only has to put up $4K out of pocket for the LS3. The end buyer only needs to spend another $1K to make the LS3 run as quick as a stock LS7 Z06.
It's a 12 year old 2006 and already at the bottom of the C6Z valuation curve. The average private sale is between KBB (@29K) and Edmunds (@26K) in good to very good condition. Of course, that means a good engine.
The OP is not keeping this one and has no need for a car while deployed in Europe. He wants to buy something with a warranty when he returns. His main concern is to stop the financial bleeding.
It's far better to install a used bulletproof LS3 for $4K and take a $4K hit on the value with a quick sale, than spend $8K for a used LS7 timebomb that the buyer will have to spend another $3K on heads to avoid a repeat problem. Either way the OP loses $8K, but only has to put up $4K out of pocket for the LS3. The end buyer only needs to spend another $1K to make the LS3 run as quick as a stock LS7 Z06.
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08-23-2017, 08:42 PM
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I would like to buy it ???
08-24-2017, 12:14 AM
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Like that C6Z for sale several months ago at some independent sales lot that unfortunately had an LS2 swapped into it. They claim they had no idea (after they found the thread here), and maybe that's true...but I have the feeling somebody somewhere got stuck with that pile for way more than he should've spent.
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08-24-2017, 02:36 AM
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with a freshly installed used engine and then have to spend another $3K to fix it before driving it? Or did you think not telling the buyer the engine wasn't the original would be ethical?
08-24-2017, 09:41 AM
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I don't think either one of us had thoughts of screwing the buyer. It's why I mentioned the OP would take a $4K hit on the value when he sold it with a LS3 installed. I'd think dropping in a used LS7 without mentioning to the buyer the possibility of dropping a valve on the untested and unknown engine condition, certainly isn't looking out for the buyer. What buyer is really going to be interested in a 12 year old car at the full value
with a freshly installed used engine and then have to spend another $3K to fix it before driving it? Or did you think not telling the buyer the engine wasn't the original would be ethical?
with a freshly installed used engine and then have to spend another $3K to fix it before driving it? Or did you think not telling the buyer the engine wasn't the original would be ethical?
you suggested installing something other than an ls7 to screw the next guy over. No other possible reason because by the time you install an ls3 and then disclose the value would go down proportionally to what the ls7 would have cost anyway.
op, either tow it to cpr since you are local and take the financial hit, or sell it as a roller to dump it and get out of it.
08-24-2017, 10:50 AM
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lol yeah ok.
you suggested installing something other than an ls7 to screw the next guy over. No other possible reason because by the time you install an ls3 and then disclose the value would go down proportionally to what the ls7 would have cost anyway.
op, either tow it to cpr since you are local and take the financial hit, or sell it as a roller to dump it and get out of it.
you suggested installing something other than an ls7 to screw the next guy over. No other possible reason because by the time you install an ls3 and then disclose the value would go down proportionally to what the ls7 would have cost anyway.
op, either tow it to cpr since you are local and take the financial hit, or sell it as a roller to dump it and get out of it.
Maybe you missed the fact the OP is currently deployed in Europe and cpr is not the only shop in AZ that has the capability to swap engines. If I had the space, I'd do it. It wouldn't be the first time I've helped out a military guy.
I suppose you think selling it as a roller means it's a guarantee the buyer will install a LS7.
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08-24-2017, 11:18 AM
#28
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I don't think either one of us had thoughts of screwing the buyer. It's why I mentioned the OP would take a $4K hit on the value when he sold it with a LS3 installed. I'd think dropping in a used LS7 without mentioning to the buyer the possibility of dropping a valve on the untested and unknown engine condition, certainly isn't looking out for the buyer. What buyer is really going to be interested in a 12 year old car at the full value
with a freshly installed used engine and then have to spend another $3K to fix it before driving it? Or did you think not telling the buyer the engine wasn't the original would be ethical?
with a freshly installed used engine and then have to spend another $3K to fix it before driving it? Or did you think not telling the buyer the engine wasn't the original would be ethical?
There is a reason Z's were tens of thousands more than a base C6 new.. A good portion of that was the engine - it is a significant factor in making a "Z" a "Z".
We can agree to disagree on what is "right or wrong" in this case, it's cool.
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08-24-2017, 11:49 AM
#29
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lol yeah ok.
you suggested installing something other than an ls7 to screw the next guy over. No other possible reason because by the time you install an ls3 and then disclose the value would go down proportionally to what the ls7 would have cost anyway.
op, either tow it to cpr since you are local and take the financial hit, or sell it as a roller to dump it and get out of it.
you suggested installing something other than an ls7 to screw the next guy over. No other possible reason because by the time you install an ls3 and then disclose the value would go down proportionally to what the ls7 would have cost anyway.
op, either tow it to cpr since you are local and take the financial hit, or sell it as a roller to dump it and get out of it.
Neither one of us suggested deceiving the next buyer
By installing the LS3! Full disclosure is how I operate.
Replacing a broken engine with something different
Is called Hot Rodding.
Some here are a little to Wrapped Up in #s
Matching, and "the white-glove treatment".
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08-24-2017, 11:58 AM
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Re-read the OP's post, "..Carmax..". Anyone paying attention knows about the head issue by now, the same can't be said for this new paradigm of buying a used ZO6 with a completly different design spec motor installed. Why not swap the trans and the diff to lower specs as well? Why not put a fiberglass wide body kit and ZO6 badges on a steel framed car, take the position of "hey, you should have asked, not my problem you didn't bring a magnet with you when you looked at the car..". Where does it end?
There is a reason Z's were tens of thousands more than a base C6 new.. A good portion of that was the engine - it is a significant factor in making a "Z" a "Z".
We can agree to disagree on what is "right or wrong" in this case, it's cool.
There is a reason Z's were tens of thousands more than a base C6 new.. A good portion of that was the engine - it is a significant factor in making a "Z" a "Z".
We can agree to disagree on what is "right or wrong" in this case, it's cool.
The buyer knows the truth I don't care what Engine is installed.
This obviously includes disclosure on trade in/sale to a dealer as well.
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08-24-2017, 06:44 PM
#31
If you plan on keeping the car I would suggest putting a LS7 back in and take the financial hit and enjoy it. I know it sucks big time and I feel for you, but it will not be the last time you lose money on a car, house, anything material, ask me how I know. I had a older friend of mine and his saying was "In 20 years it won't matter".
If you are done with it, then sell as a roller, take the hit and let someone else do whatever they want to.
Thank you for your service. God bless!
If you are done with it, then sell as a roller, take the hit and let someone else do whatever they want to.
Thank you for your service. God bless!
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08-25-2017, 12:34 AM
#33
I appreciate all of the responses. I've decided to keep it for now and replace it with another LS7. I've spoken to CPR and gotten a quote to do the swap. I'm going to make another post and try to get engine recommendations, thanks again.
Best of luck and hopefully you'll have ample opportunity to enjoy it. They are great rides!