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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
You could be right with that assessment on these images...but these are the first mules.

The Drone images do show a strange situation of what looks to be an air tunnel in the door but it sticks WAY out so not sure it would stay that way.

The McDonald's cars have different panels and features and overall looks a different shape. The doors are covered on the McD cars and the sill is different so I figured the scoop has been changed as far as appearance. Maybe the position has remained the same.

I am not sure the scoop will be like the last version I posted. To me, it is a little dated...at least the way I depicted it. It is Corvette-ish but not revolutionary as promised from GM.

Hope we get some new hints soon...
I know that we have all seen the leaked GM documents that denote zero (0) number of V8 engines being assigned to the Cadillac Y2, but could the styling differences being noted here be actually due to continued work being done on the Cadillac mules?
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Old Dec 18, 2017 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon

I am not sure the scoop will be like the last version I posted. To me, it is a little dated...at least the way I depicted it. It is Corvette-ish but not revolutionary as promised from GM.

Hope we get some new hints soon...
the cad drawings definitely show mechanical revolution (for a corvette); the sculpture of the body, not at all from what i have seen so far.

since the early spy shot car's rocker panels are definitely different than the latest models, you could be right that some/alot of changes might have occurred. that thought crossed my mind as i was writing my last comments to you.

even if the car is not released next month and comes out instead in january, 2019, the final shape of the real thing has to be finalized by now. it will be interesting.

again, thanks for sharing your work.
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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
I am not too clear on the scoop in this configuration with the door opening. I'm sure if we sat and compared all the images with the doors open and closed and visualized the end view we may be able to figure out what's going on there. In some views it does look like a tunnel in the door but in others it doesn't.

Thanks for the leaked rear end cad. I incorporated it in the latest render.

I stretched the scoop as suggested but left the door opening out because I don't think they would split the scoop..would they? I also only suggest the rear as I did it quick and am not sure how the defuser and bottom skirt will work yet.


Really enjoying following this. I preferred your rear fender/taillight concept prior to this version (not that it matters). This reminds me of a Mitsubishi 3000GT rear. I'm finding myself drawn here more and more from C1/C2. Keep feeding my imagination. Thx
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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
I moved the scoop forward as per your lines (closer anyway ) and fixed the hips a bit.



firstvettesoon, kitt said he has seen the car and if i understand him correctly, this is what the scoops look like, so if you move them back where they were on this edition to your latest revision, you'll be pretty close overall.

sorry for leading you on a wild goose chase!

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Old Dec 19, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by senah
firstvettesoon, kitt said he has seen the car and if i understand him correctly, this is what the scoops look like, so if you move them back where they were on this edition to your latest revision, you'll be pretty close overall.

sorry for leading you on a wild goose chase!
All good fun!

I just posted the latest "CERV" scoop version (post #73) which also has the scoop back and angled but without the edge cover.

Kitt also said the nose IS more aggressive. I can see some interesting sculpted forms under the black tarp around the headlamps. He claims the front end is more angular too.

It also looks to me that the rear deck has camo paint UNDER the black tarp where the glass would be. Anyone else see this?



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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 01:33 AM
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one more slight adjustment but I think it changes to look quite a bit.

I gave it more of a "Corvette-ish" deck figuring maybe they are using a buttris type rear deck? also a little nose job.




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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:30 AM
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That front end is really low. One technical thing to keep in mind is the European pedestrian collision requirements which tend to make the front ends a bit taller - that is unless GM/Chevrolet has no intentions of offering an export (European at least) compliment version of the ME C8.
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by senah
firstvettesoon, kitt said he has seen the car and if i understand him correctly, this is what the scoops look like, so if you move them back where they were on this edition to your latest revision, you'll be pretty close overall.

sorry for leading you on a wild goose chase!
Here's why he changed the look of the rear scoop.

I found this pic online and noticed that it had a faint outline of the rear scoop underneath the fabric. I played with the photo in photoshop to enhance the hidden details and this is what I got.

This enhanced photo clearly shows the shape and location of the rear scoop. Of course, this could just be phony body details hiding the real outline.


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Originally Posted by JHrinsin
That front end is really low. One technical thing to keep in mind is the European pedestrian collision requirements which tend to make the front ends a bit taller - that is unless GM/Chevrolet has no intentions of offering an export (European at least) compliment version of the ME C8.
Mid-rear engine means you can pass the pedestrian crash standards with a much lower/sleeker car.
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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A key component for European pedestrian collision standards is the person’s impact on the front hood (needing something sort of squishy or deformable). That is why the ZR1 failed outright with its engine sticking out.

Without an engine up front, the body panels can deform easily (bend/flex) and so that part of European PCS compliance is no longer an issue.

I believe the chances of GM giving up bringing ME’s into Europe is about 0.00000001% (or less).
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
one more slight adjustment but I think it changes to look quite a bit.

I gave it more of a "Corvette-ish" deck figuring maybe they are using a buttris type rear deck? also a little nose job.



Subtle change that makes a ton of difference in "Corvette-ish-ness". The family resemblance is much clearer in this latest revision. Looks great.
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by drs
Subtle change that makes a ton of difference in "Corvette-ish-ness". The family resemblance is much clearer in this latest revision. Looks great.
Agree except for the "it's 1986 and I want my design back" intake strakes.

Any chance that you can do some 3/4 front and rear sketches, FirstVette? Love to see your prognostications...
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 05:24 PM
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This is what I see under the covers.
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Atomic Fred
Agree except for the "it's 1986 and I want my design back" intake strakes.

Any chance that you can do some 3/4 front and rear sketches, FirstVette? Love to see your prognostications...
Yeah, that intake IS from the CERV but I used it because it showed how the scoop could be split in front of the deep part of the scoop.

I'll work on something.
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaka
This is what I see under the covers.
close. the nose sticks out more and there is about a foot between the outer front fascia opening and the wheel well opening from what i can see in the camouflaged pictures.
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Originally Posted by senah
close. the nose sticks out more and there is about a foot between the outer front fascia opening and the wheel well opening from what i can see in the camouflaged pictures.
I basically traced a published photo. We'll see it pretty soon. Sure hope it looks a lot better than what I have drawn. You're right, I added a few inches to the front which is more like the photo and changed the radius on the top of the rear 1/4.

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Like its “growing nose,” for IMO, every fractional growth in the nose will enhance its appearance.

Collectively, this is looking really nice and getting progressively more accurate, as collective minds are providing more and more detailed input, and our artists are doing their excellent revisions.

Now for that a Christmas morning present(s), that would really flesh what this beauty would look like!
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Some real quick sketches. Just don't have enough info.




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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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i think the cat is pretty well out of the bag.
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