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Old May 21, 2018 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
no expert on 65 L79 cars would like to see some one owner low mile cars with this
I'm not interested in a debate on this but the GM AMA specs for 1965 show a six quart (5/!) crankcase capacity for the L-79 so at least at some point in time, it was a gleam in someone's eye.
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Old May 21, 2018 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeM
I'm not interested in a debate on this but the GM AMA specs for 1965 show a six quart (5/!) crankcase capacity for the L-79 so at least at some point in time, it was a gleam in someone's eye.
Well that proves Larry’s point. So wonder when GM decided to use a four quart pan on the L79 and if this has anything to do with your question about the 60 and 80lb gauge for each pan.
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Old May 21, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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I honestly appreciate each & every response from everyone, I think the best thing for me to do is to go with the 80 lb gauge, just for peace of mind, my thanks to all.
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Old May 21, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Thank you for your valuable input & offer to relay contact info, I think my best choice it to just go with the 80 lb gauge, more for my own peace of mind than any other reason, hopefully I can return the favor one day.


Originally Posted by Powershift
I went back and rechecked Rick Miller's and Noland's Books. Had a bit more time to search. Nothing I could find in Noland's Restoration Book about the 60 or 80 psi oil pressure gage changes.

However in Rick's Book I found two references to the L-79 with the different oil pressure gages that i did not find earlier. One was on page 65 regarding inspecting a prospective corvette for purchase. Rick stated here that some 1965 L-79 cars had an 80 psi oil pressure gage and early L-79 also had the low 5300 RPM redline tachometer.

On page 140 regarding the 1965 specific model year corvette, Rick showed a picture of the instrument cluster of a 1965 car (engine/car not identified) that had a 5300 RPM redline tachometer and a 80 psi oil pressure gage. Rick stated that this suggested that it was an early production 327/350 (L-79) engine.

So there is evidence from his book as well as forum members midstyle and cblankin that the 80 psi oil pressure gage did exist from the factory.

There is no additional knowledge I can find that ties this difference to a particular VIN range or month of production. Midstyle's picture shows the higher 6000 RPM redline tach for the L-79 along with the 80 psi oil gage..........so the oil pressure and tach redline changes were not done together or simultaneously.

The NCRS 1965 Team Leader may have additional info and could be contacted. His name is K.C. Strawmyre from Newburg, Pennsylvania. You can PM me for contact information.
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Old May 21, 2018 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Critter1
That's what I thought too.
My 66 April build 60lb.

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I believe I recall the Service News announcing the availability of Power Steering with the L79 in March 1965.
I can also tell you that L79 #23561 has a 1966 80 lb oil gauge in an instrument panel that I recall is stamped 27 July 1965.
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
I believe I recall the Service News announcing the availability of Power Steering with the L79 in March 1965.
I can also tell you that L79 #23561 has a 1966 80 lb oil gauge in an instrument panel that I recall is stamped 27 July 1965.
Nolan said PS and L-79 engine first appeared together in 1965 model VIN #159. That would be mid/late September 1964. He did state in his book that GM later issued a special service announcement to their dealers stating this availability, as sales of this combination were initially slow.

FWIW.

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Originally Posted by VetteZr
I honestly appreciate each & every response from everyone, I think the best thing for me to do is to go with the 80 lb gauge, just for peace of mind, my thanks to all.
A good decision. That is what I would do.

Larry

PS: I would likely also install the HP oil pump.

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Old May 21, 2018 | 05:33 PM
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That was already done in the rebuild, I put in a Melling pump. Thanks


Originally Posted by Powershift
A good decision. That is what I would do.

Larry

PS: I would likely also install the HP oil pump.
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Originally Posted by desertpilgrim
I believe I recall the Service News announcing the availability of Power Steering with the L79 in March 1965.
I can also tell you that L79 #23561 has a 1966 80 lb oil gauge in an instrument panel that I recall is stamped 27 July 1965.
Hi Loren -- interesting instr. panel ink stamp date on your late '65 #23561. Three cars later, my L78 (#23564) has an LB sticker; (396, fuelies, and L76, with 80 lb oil and 6500 redline). Ink stamp Jul 26 1965.






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Old May 22, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Powershift

However in Rick's Book I found two references to the L-79 with the different oil pressure gages that i did not find earlier. One was on page 65 regarding inspecting a prospective corvette for purchase. Rick stated here that some 1965 L-79 cars had an 80 psi oil pressure gage and early L-79 also had the low 5300 RPM redline tachometer.

On page 140 regarding the 1965 specific model year corvette, Rick showed a picture of the instrument cluster of a 1965 car (engine/car not identified) that had a 5300 RPM redline tachometer and a 80 psi oil pressure gage. Rick stated that this suggested that it was an early production 327/350 (L-79) engine.
My '65 built beginning of Nov. '64 has 80psi gage and 5300 rpm Tach. Vin # 01566.

This is my dash sticker. Anyone know what the different cluster numbers indicate? Mine is # 6455363.

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Originally Posted by DSR
My '65 built beginning of Nov. '64 has 80psi gage and 5300 rpm Tach. Vin # 01566.

This is my dash sticker. Anyone know what the different cluster numbers indicate? Mine is # 6455363.
Low HP. 5300 redline and 60 lb. oil gauge.
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My '65 low HP 80LBs. May have been changed along the way!. Sully
VIN # 108711

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Originally Posted by BWT
Low HP. 5300 redline and 60 lb. oil gauge.
THE 60lb gage may have been changed out before I got the car.
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Old May 23, 2018 | 06:13 PM
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Does the AIM show a cluster assembly code for each engine? Does the AIM cluster listing for L 79 have a revision usage date?

If not, that would seem to suggest several reasons for the confusion.

Whoever the vendor that put the clusters together decided that either gauge would work for L 79.

The vendor had employees who were careless and put in the wrong gauge. Either because they ran out of the right ones or just didn't GAS.

Somewhere in Chevrolet (or other) service, someone replaced the original gauge and/or the whole cluster assembly.

It was common in the '60's in Dearborn to approve "upgrades" by the QC engineer on the floor if the substitution was "better" than the base requirement.

I know engineering is supposed to approve (with paperwork) all changes that vary from engineering intent. It didn't always happen that way.

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Is there any way to tell if the dash cluster is original to the car? Other than the inked date stamp on the back?

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