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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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The 3LT interior comes with more than the leather dash -- just saying. Clearly there are reported issues that owners are experiencing with this and thats unfortunate. How many? Only GM knows. Seems silly we all have to argue over this though.
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Originally Posted by SingleTrackMinded
The 3LT interior comes with more than the leather dash -- just saying. Clearly there are reported issues that owners are experiencing with this and thats unfortunate. How many? Only GM knows. Seems silly we all have to argue over this though.
What's silly is people who do not own a 3LT/3LZ trim C7, exaggerating to anyone who will listen, how bad our vehicle choice was based on wives tales, innuendo, and anecdotes. Actually it's downright pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Yes. Mine 2017 does.
Mine does as well. Also PDR. Just saying.
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What's silly is people who do not own a 3LT/3LZ trim C7, exaggerating to anyone who will listen, how bad our vehicle choice was based on wives tales, innuendo, and anecdotes. Actually it's downright pathetic.
I've actually owned both (a 3LT and a 2LT) - so I'll provide my perspective. I've posted about this many times in the past - the 3LT is the most expensive because its a higher quality of leather...however, I do think its lack of leather-type texture makes it look a bit plastic looking. The 2LT may not have the napa leather, but I will say I like the texture of the 2LT better than the smooth look. Again, that is personal preference - others may agree or disagree.

Now that I have owned both - I can say clearly that one is no better than the other. I always buy fully loaded (pre-owned) Vettes - so the option level is never a question of packages cause every Vette I've owned is fully loaded (or damn close to it). So if your buying a 3LT JUST for the leather - your wasting your money - get a 2LT and load it up with options - you can thank me later.

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Originally Posted by Shirl
Mine does as well. Also PDR. Just saying.
I've got it ALL,with the 3LT. Not sure why that bothers some people??
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Originally Posted by SingleTrackMinded
The 3LT interior comes with more than the leather dash -- just saying. Clearly there are reported issues that owners are experiencing with this and thats unfortunate. How many? Only GM knows. Seems silly we all have to argue over this though.
A lot of 1LT owners want to justify their cheap choice by showing up anytime there's a 3LT thread. Some things cannot be explained.
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Just traded into a 2019 3LT/Z51 (new vehicle, dealer clearing out the remaining C7s) from a 2016 2LT.
Dealing with the delamination issue on a minor scale as the leather surrounding the HUD delaminated. Car is with an upholsterer the dealership uses to fix the problem. They highly recommended NOT replacing the dash, but luckily, the only part of the dash that has the issue is the HUD.

I understand that there is a tint for the windshield that can mitigate or eliminate future delamination issues (?)

Coming from a 2LT, I admit that I prefer the leather 3LT. Car feels more "luxurious" and softer (Cadillac feel). I am not happy with the delamination issue, but I am not experiencing what many here have reported. I attribute this problem to the car sitting at a dealership lot in the sun for over a year. Still unacceptable that this can happen to any 3LT owner and that is the point.

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Originally Posted by SingleTrackMinded
The 3LT interior comes with more than the leather dash -- just saying. Clearly there are reported issues that owners are experiencing with this and thats unfortunate. How many? Only GM knows. Seems silly we all have to argue over this though.

I really don't understand the vitriol over this, except to say that perhaps the 3LT owners who haven't experienced the delamination problem, combined with the people justifying their purchase (3LT owners and 1LT and 2LT owners alike) adds up to a need to argue about it.

I have a minor delamination issue with the leather surrounding my HUD. I don't like that I am having a problem with this less than four weeks into owning this car, but I am certainly not regretting buying a 3LT car and I don't have to justify anything to anyone, including myself. I'd like to hear from 3LT owners who found a solution to prevent future delamination issues. I am lucky it is only the HUD surround I'm having the issue with.
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Old Aug 17, 2020 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
What's silly is people who do not own a 3LT/3LZ trim C7, exaggerating to anyone who will listen, how bad our vehicle choice was based on wives tales, innuendo, and anecdotes. Actually it's downright pathetic.
You certainly don't need to own a 3LT/3LZ to know about the issues with shrinking/cracking dashes as it's in your face on here everyday, thread after thread, post after post on the subject.

You are the one whose exaggerating as I don't see posts here about how bad some's vehicle choice was based on wives tales, innuendo, and anecdotes. What I see is posters warning potential 3LT/3LZ purchases of the issues, which is the right thing to do.
If I were new to the Corvette community and considering purchase of a C7 3LT trim package I would appreciate that info so I could make an informed decision.

You are the one whose always spewing wives tales, innuendo, and anecdotes such as your unsubstantiated claim that less than 1% of 3LT/3LZ have the shrinking issues. Then there's the one where you warn not to purchase C7 convertibles because they're too dangerous.


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I Love my 3LZ interior so much that here is a couple of pictures of it................



Old Aug 17, 2020 | 10:34 PM
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You forgot to take the plastic off the doorsill. That makes it a 2LZ.
Old Aug 17, 2020 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayor111
I've actually owned both (a 3LT and a 2LT) - so I'll provide my perspective. I've posted about this many times in the past - the 3LT is the most expensive because its a higher quality of leather...however, I do think its lack of leather-type texture makes it look a bit plastic looking. The 2LT may not have the napa leather, but I will say I like the texture of the 2LT better than the smooth look. Again, that is personal preference - others may agree or disagree.

Now that I have owned both - I can say clearly that one is no better than the other. I always buy fully loaded (pre-owned) Vettes - so the option level is never a question of packages cause every Vette I've owned is fully loaded (or damn close to it). So if your buying a 3LT JUST for the leather - your wasting your money - get a 2LT and load it up with options - you can thank me later.
Price was a never a consideration for me. I liked the look/feel of the leather on the doors, the diamond weaved roof liner, and the alcantara interior A pillar posts. The 3LT interior presentation looked better to me. Throw in the PDR with the cameras and I was sold. I liked the look of the Napa much more than Mulan. I didn't like the plastic pebbled look/feel of Mulan. Going with the 3LT for me was a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by Kevin A Jones

If I were new to the Corvette community and considering purchase of a C7 3LT trim package I would appreciate that info so I could make an informed decision.
But you have nothing to offer anyone other your stock lame answer "I'd never get a 3LT". You actually think that is useful to anyone?

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I really don't understand the vitriol over this, except to say that perhaps the 3LT owners who haven't experienced the delamination problem, combined with the people justifying their purchase (3LT owners and 1LT and 2LT owners alike) adds up to a need to argue about it.

I have a minor delamination issue with the leather surrounding my HUD. I don't like that I am having a problem with this less than four weeks into owning this car, but I am certainly not regretting buying a 3LT car and I don't have to justify anything to anyone, including myself. I'd like to hear from 3LT owners who found a solution to prevent future delamination issues. I am lucky it is only the HUD surround I'm having the issue with.
Congrats on your new ride Chemdawg. Sad to hear about your ride having this issue out of the gate, at least it will be covered with the B2B. Regarding solutions you mentioned, there are plenty steps you can take to proactively mitigate ever having delamination or cracking of the 3LT/3LZ dash. I have studied this topic thoroughly and I can pass along recommendations I've learned of you may not be aware of that will help eliminate your dash failure concerns. Drop me a PM when you get your dash repaired. Will be glad to provide assist.

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Originally Posted by Shirl
You forgot to take the plastic off the doorsill. That makes it a 2LZ.
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OK Here is the truth I purchased my 2017 Corvette with 3LZ interior 3 years ago no problems but mine is a garage queen with 2250 miles on it and no dashboard problems. After reading this thread you guys just cost me $86 to have this sunshade from Chevy Mall to be delivered to my house so I can use it when out of the garage and when in the garage from the LED lights! You guys are SCARING THE SHI" OUT OF ME! So better to be safe than sorry!!





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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
Just traded into a 2019 3LT/Z51 (new vehicle, dealer clearing out the remaining C7s) from a 2016 2LT.
Dealing with the delamination issue on a minor scale as the leather surrounding the HUD delaminated. Car is with an upholsterer the dealership uses to fix the problem. They highly recommended NOT replacing the dash, but luckily, the only part of the dash that has the issue is the HUD.

I understand that there is a tent for the windshield that can mitigate or eliminate future delamination issues (?)

Coming from a 2LT, I admit that I prefer the leather 3LT. Car feels more "luxurious" and softer (Cadillac feel). I am not happy with the delamination issue, but I am not experiencing what many here have reported. I attribute this problem to the car sitting at a dealership lot in the sun for over a year. Still unacceptable that this can happen to any 3LT owner and that is the point.
My 2017 3LT sat outside 15 months before I bought it. Since, 100% garaged. Been 4 years now. Nary a dash issue. Luxurious. That's what I l♡ve about it too. My first car was a new 1974 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. at 23 yrs. old. Lemme tell you, it was an upgrade from the 1972 Honda CL350 I'd been riding. So I KNOW what the Cadillac difference is. My 3LT's got it!
Good luck with your new 2019 C7 3LT!🙂

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My 2017 3LT sat outside 15 months before I bought it. Since, 100% garaged. Been 4 years now. Nary a dash issue. Luxurious. That's what I l♡ve about it too. My first car was a new 1974 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. at 23 yrs. old. Lemme tell you, it was an upgrade from the 1972 Honda CL350 I'd been riding. So I KNOW what the Cadillac difference is. My 3LT's got it!
Good luck with your new 2019 C7 3LT!🙂
Thank you and I am glad that you have not experienced the the delamination issue. I am thankful that I am not having the more extensive problems others who have the delamination problem are experiencing. The 3LT interior is definitely worth having to deal with this potential issue, though it is disconcerting that anyone has to deal with it at all.

I am sure that the vast majority of 3LT owners are not having this problem. I just want to see what others who have had the problem have done to correct it and prevent it from happening again.

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Congrats on your new ride Chemdawg. Sad to hear about your ride having this issue out of the gate, at least it will be covered with the B2B. Regarding solutions you mentioned, there are plenty steps you can take to proactively mitigate ever having delamination or cracking of the 3LT/3LZ dash. I have studied this topic thoroughly and I can pass along recommendations I've learned of you may not be aware of that will help eliminate your dash failure concerns. Drop me a PM when you get your dash repaired. Will be glad to provide assist.
Thank you and my dash should be repaired by the end of the day. Will drop you a PM and thank you for your willingness to provide some solutions
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
OK Here is the truth I purchased my 2017 Corvette with 3LZ interior 3 years ago no problems but mine is a garage queen with 2250 miles on it and no dashboard problems. After reading this thread you guys just cost me $86 to have this sunshade from Chevy Mall to be delivered to my house so I can use it when out of the garage and when in the garage from the LED lights! You guys are SCARING THE SHI" OUT OF ME! So better to be safe than sorry!!


I use the UVS 100 sunshade on my Z vert whenever I park it outside. Takes less than 30 seconds to put in place and when combined with window tint, keeps the interior temps waaaay down. So far(fingers crossed), my 17 3LZ has shown no problems. My personal opinion - and I very well could be wrong - is the de lamination is caused by excessive heat and direct sunlight beating down on the dash. With the sunshade in place and 5% tint on my sides and rear glass, I’m optimistic I can prevent this issue from happening to my car.



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