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06-07-2019, 01:14 PM
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Le Mans Master
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2021 C6 of the Year Finalist - Modified
I have been going to Champion for the past 10 years.
ALWAYS been fair and great service from Rob and Pete and the team. They know Vettes like no one else and have track results from their own Vettes and MANY customer's cars to back it up.
ALWAYS been fair and great service from Rob and Pete and the team. They know Vettes like no one else and have track results from their own Vettes and MANY customer's cars to back it up.
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dlynch (06-17-2019)
06-07-2019, 02:18 PM
#22
Le Mans Master
Maybe fair to YOU but as noted above, $700 for an hour, and $700 for 35 minutes to another customer is anything BUT fair.
06-09-2019, 12:53 AM
#23
Racer
From my understanding the going rate for a tune is anywhere from $700 plus. I would question any shop that charges less. As far as time it doesn’t mater. It could take some cars 10 minutes to tune and some a lot longer. Your still paying that $700. Every time I go to Champion there’s no less than 10 Vettes not including the other high end cars there being serviced or getting upgrades, so they must be doing something right!
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corrado (06-11-2019)
06-10-2019, 12:13 AM
#24
From my understanding the going rate for a tune is anywhere from $700 plus. I would question any shop that charges less. As far as time it doesn’t mater. It could take some cars 10 minutes to tune and some a lot longer. Your still paying that $700. Every time I go to Champion there’s no less than 10 Vettes not including the other high end cars there being serviced or getting upgrades, so they must be doing something right!
06-10-2019, 08:01 AM
#25
Le Mans Master
From my understanding the going rate for a tune is anywhere from $700 plus. I would question any shop that charges less. As far as time it doesn’t mater. It could take some cars 10 minutes to tune and some a lot longer. Your still paying that $700. Every time I go to Champion there’s no less than 10 Vettes not including the other high end cars there being serviced or getting upgrades, so they must be doing something right!
i agree, have cars in there for tunes, and had a issue one time, took it back and Rob and Kevin looked at it, and resolved the issue. If one doesn t talk to them and give them some kind of feedback, how would they know the car has an issue ? They don t have a crystal ball. Is always busy there, as Spartagus says,, " they must be doing something right". No matter where you go, there is always going to be disgruntled people, look at the guy used to be in Cambridge, everyone thought he was the greatest, second coming. Only met him twice and would have never worked on my car, i didn t trust him the first time he opened his mouth. If one doesn t like the service, go elsewhere, simple as that, and see what you get.
jmo
06-11-2019, 08:04 PM
#26
Drifting
Hey guys. Just my 2 cents about Champion Motorsports in Toronto.
Had heads fixed, BTR cam/tune installed last year by another company. They did a great job but there was surging at low rpm. I specifically got a BTR2 because I read many times that the surging could be tuned out.
So I recently put headers on and thought I would go out to Champion. I asked for first morning call.I specifically told Rob, the owner about the surging issue. Drove 1.5hrs and then waited until 1pm for them to get the car on the dyno. 3 pulls and some tweaking, and a drive around the block w the tuner. Car runs a little better but surging still there.
$700 for just over an hour for little improvement.
I guess I shouldn't complain as the CTSV owner that was also waiting paid $700 for 35 minutes of tuning.
I questioned the owner about the fee and he said it was a "full tune".
Had heads fixed, BTR cam/tune installed last year by another company. They did a great job but there was surging at low rpm. I specifically got a BTR2 because I read many times that the surging could be tuned out.
So I recently put headers on and thought I would go out to Champion. I asked for first morning call.I specifically told Rob, the owner about the surging issue. Drove 1.5hrs and then waited until 1pm for them to get the car on the dyno. 3 pulls and some tweaking, and a drive around the block w the tuner. Car runs a little better but surging still there.
$700 for just over an hour for little improvement.
I guess I shouldn't complain as the CTSV owner that was also waiting paid $700 for 35 minutes of tuning.
I questioned the owner about the fee and he said it was a "full tune".
06-12-2019, 08:05 AM
#27
Le Mans Master
hearsay, is why people make mistakes, do your own research,
AGP is ok, if you want to pay someone else to do it over again and fix their mistakes, Never again for me there.
AGP is ok, if you want to pay someone else to do it over again and fix their mistakes, Never again for me there.
06-13-2019, 08:41 PM
#28
Can you share your story? I had my car tuned at AGP, bolt ons with mild eps cam. Car had to go back due to stalling when pressing the clutch in and letting rpms naturally fall and issue hunting for idle then stalling. In fairness, they were good in spending more time on it, car no longer stalls when pressing in the clutch while cruising but does still hunt for idle and will stall when ac is on. It's frustrating, in the end, I'm not certain if this is going rate for a mild cam car and have been living with it/trying to drive around it. They are rather far for me and couldn't keep going back, but I read I shouldn't have these issues with the cam I have and a proper tune thus less than satisfied. I am considering having the car tuned elsewhere, but would want a commitment the tune is quality with no idling issues.
06-13-2019, 08:50 PM
#29
Le Mans Master
Can you share your story? I had my car tuned at AGP, bolt ons with mild eps cam. Car had to go back due to stalling when pressing the clutch in and letting rpms naturally fall and issue hunting for idle then stalling. In fairness, they were good in spending more time on it, car no longer stalls when pressing in the clutch while cruising but does still hunt for idle and will stall when ac is on. It's frustrating, in the end, I'm not certain if this is going rate for a mild cam car and have been living with it/trying to drive around it. They are rather far for me and couldn't keep going back, but I read I shouldn't have these issues with the cam I have and a proper tune thus less than satisfied. I am considering having the car tuned elsewhere, but would want a commitment the tune is quality with no idling issues.
I won t share my issues, because i receive nasty pm s the other day, stating i was "slamming" them on line, well, this is an open forum, and people ask for opinions.. and i stated mine. i had to go elsewhere to get the issue resolved. couldn t keep going back there either.
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dlynch (06-21-2019)
06-18-2019, 07:55 PM
#30
Thanks walleyejack. I will check around and see who is willing to spend the time to do the tune properly. Champion was on my list, unfortunately they also seem hit or miss so who the heck knows anymore. I won't be throwing more money at another tuner without some sort of agreement the idle will be proper.
06-21-2019, 09:07 PM
#31
I have had Nick at AGP tune two of my vehicles so far with zero issues. Same goes with many, many friends....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
06-22-2019, 03:10 PM
#32
Intermediate
Your car has two idle settings which is idle with a/c on and idle with a/c off. The idle with a/c on is higher due to the draw on the engine running the a/c compressor and the alternator putting out power to run the cooling fan. Just some info to help you along the way.
06-22-2019, 10:41 PM
#33
there is a reason why tuners that know their sheet will do a couple pulls on the street. If you don't, your just guessing. ...
if your guessing wrong your motor aint gonna last too long.
if your guessing wrong your motor aint gonna last too long.
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walleyejack (06-24-2019)
06-26-2019, 05:50 AM
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Burning Brakes
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I have had Nick at AGP tune two of my vehicles so far with zero issues. Same goes with many, many friends....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
06-27-2019, 12:33 PM
#35
Instructor
I have had Nick at AGP tune two of my vehicles so far with zero issues. Same goes with many, many friends....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
I haven't heard any issues. What went so wrong walleyejack? Last I heard was that you were very happy with Nick and his work' Your comments are very confusing.....
06-27-2019, 12:37 PM
#36
Burning Brakes
06-27-2019, 06:39 PM
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Burning Brakes
06-27-2019, 06:42 PM
#39
Instructor
06-27-2019, 06:50 PM
#40
Burning Brakes
Just that it’s not really a testament to tuning ability to tune a bolt on car. It will run fine without a tune. I’m not knocking this guy at all. I know nothing about him or his shop. I’m sure they’ve done heavily modified cars as well. Just that yours isn’t really a good example. That’s my point. 😋
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