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Removing a Gorilla 71631 X wheel lock without a key??
So JohnnyDee had a tread going titled Gorilla guard wheel locks #61631 and wanted to know if that lock would fit a C7 wheel. Nobody seemed to know and the treat drifted to locks in general. And of course we have the "If someone wants your wheels blah blah blah..." trite response.
I"ve got two different style Gorilla locks on my wheels. A standard spline acorn #71633N on 4 lugs of each wheel and on the fifth I used the rotating head #71631X lock. So I use two keys, one for each set of locks.
I know there are many tools that will remove the acorn #71633N by hammering on a left turning "easy out" that fits over the lock or even just a snug fitting socket.
But that will not work on a #71631X lock because the outer 2/3rds of the lock is designed to "free wheel" and no matter what you bang on the end of that lock it will not loosen the lock from the wheel.
So I asked if any of our many members had a way of removing that type of lock. NOBODY could come up with a "tool" that would do it.
So, I don't want to hear the "locks don't work", "they are too much trouble", "they'll make a thief mad and he'll damage your car" etc.
How can you get one these bloody things off without a key????
The only way I can see is to weld the two sections but that's not practical.
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Last edited by Walt White Coupe; 01-31-2016 at 06:19 PM.
So JohnnyDee had a tread going titled Gorilla guard wheel locks #61631 and wanted to know if that lock would fit a C7 wheel. Nobody seemed to know and the treat drifted to locks in general. And of course we have the "If someone wants your wheels blah blah blah..." trite response.
I"ve got two different style Gorilla locks on my wheels. A standard spline acorn #71633N on 4 lugs of each wheel and on the fifth I used the rotating head #71631X lock. So I use two keys, one for each set of locks.
I know there are many tools that will remove the acorn #71633N by hammering on a left turning "easy out" that fits over the lock or even just a snug fitting socket.
But that will not work on a #71631X lock because the outer 2/3rds of the lock is designed to "free wheel" and no matter what you bang on the end of that lock it will not loosen the lock from the wheel.
So I asked if any of our many members had a way of removing that type of lock. NOBODY could come up with a "tool" that would do it.
So, I don't want to hear the "locks don't work", "they are too much trouble", "they'll make a thief mad and he'll damage your car" etc.
How can you get one these bloody things off without a key????
The only way I can see is to weld the two sections but that's not practical.
Do you have the code that came with the locks? Usually if you loose your key you can order a new one. As an alternative what if you used clay/playdo make mold of what the key would look like and send it to the Gorilla company or a blacksmith that can make a key like instrument?
Sorry guys but this is just a hypothetical situation. I have no problem and have the keys. But because so many people say that locks don't defeat thieves and I think that these are about as good as locks get I just wanted to know how you could get them off being hardened steel and a rotating end that will defeat most "tools" to get them off.
And the focus should be, how would a thief get them off?
So you're asking how a thief could get them off on a public forum where people use them? WTF? If someone does post a way will you ask to have the thread deleted? What's next, a thread asking for easy ways to steal a C7?
My buddy at Discount Tire says they have keys for most of the locks they sell.
If not, and the person accepts the possibility of damage, they pound a socket onto the lock.
He said, this works most of the time. And then, they sell them a new set.
What is it you are looking for exactly? That you purchased a better widget and are smarter than everyone else here with inferior wheel locks?
Even the "spinning" X2 has it's flaws and can be easily removed. First, you break the top cover off the lug.
Then, you pound a socket on to the end and remove the lug. If you only have one, then you remove
the other four and pull the wheel towards you till the one remaining stud breaks in two.
Additionally: Your "spinning top" is designed to stop the reverse threaded sockets from being able to screw onto the lug - not to stop someone from pounding a socket onto them. A regular deep socket will cover both the top and bottom portions of the lug.
If you still think that isn't good enough, take a look at the following video:
This is how you line up the keyways first - just like you do with you specially Gorilla key. No different. Same result. You then pound a socket onto both parts with the keyways lined up, which stops the top from spinning and thus removes the lug.
What is it you are looking for exactly? That you purchased a better widget and are smarter than everyone else here with inferior wheel locks?
Not smarter but Gorilla designed a smarter lock.
Even the "spinning" X2 has it's flaws and can be easily removed. First, you break the top cover off the lug.
I seriously doubt that it's easy to break off spinning part
Then, you pound a socket on to the end and remove the lug. If you only have one, then you remove
the other four and pull the wheel towards you till the one remaining stud breaks in two.
That hardly sounds easy to do.
Or not. Who really cares?
People that want a hard to defeat wheel lock.
Yes you are confused.
This forum is about sharing information and that's really the only point of my post.
As far as stolen wheels go almost every post in the last 10 years has shown C6's and now a C7 with wheels that were stolen in peoples driveway or in front of their homes. That's where a thief will target your car, where it spends 90% plus of it's time. The simple acorn lock on all lugs will slow them down and make them make a lot of noise because whatever method they use they have to drive a socket or an "easy out like tool" onto the lock with a heavy hammer. Extra time and making noise alone will discourage most thieves.
Now add to this the even more aggressive force that would be needed to "pound" a socket all the way on this rotating head lock and I think your wheels are pretty safe.
And of course the added security that the C7 has with it's motion sensor will alert you if someone tries to lift the car.
Last edited by Walt White Coupe; 02-01-2016 at 08:24 AM.
What is it you are looking for exactly? That you purchased a better widget and are smarter than everyone else here with inferior wheel locks?
IMHO he is simply trying to prove he is right and say the locks he uses are not removable without the key. He belives they are undefeatable. We hashed this out in another thread but he felt compelled to start a new thread as the OP of the other thread got his answer early on then complained that we were hijacking his thread.
This forum is about sharing information and that's really the only point of my post.
As far as stolen wheels go almost every post in the last 10 years has shown C6's and now a C7 with wheels that were stolen in peoples driveway or in front of their homes. That's where a thief will target your car, where it spends 90% plus of it's time. The simple acorn lock on all lugs will slow them down and make them make a lot of noise because whatever method they use they have to drive a socket or an "easy out like tool" onto the lock with a heavy hammer. Extra time and making noise alone will discourage most thieves.
Now add to this the even more aggressive force that would be needed to "pound" a socket all the way on this rotating head lock and I think your wheels are pretty safe.
And of course the added security that the C7 has with it's motion sensor will alert you if someone tries to lift the car.
Wait, your first point was they cannot be removed unless welding to it. Now you admit pounding a 17 mm deep dish with a small bar will remove them? Bit of a change there Walt. Now it needs to be a quiet way to remove without a key?
IMHO he is simply trying to prove he is right and say the locks he uses are not removable without the key. He belives they are undefeatable.
Don't think I ever said they were "undefeatable". There is no such thing.
Now it needs to be a quiet way to remove without a key?
Why does anyone put locks on their wheels? They hope they will prevent them from being stolen. So far, from all the responses, not only will it take a thief a lot of time to get these locks off, they will also have to make a lot of noise doing it. That's a good thing.
The more we talk about this particular design, the more faith I have that they will stop any attempt at stealing the wheels unless they figure a way to steal the entire car.
01-31-2016, 05:58 PM
Removing a Gorilla 71631 X wheel lock without a key??
Robert wagner
