C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

Assistance please: 1965 deck lid spring replacements

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-21-2017, 10:16 PM
  #1  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default Assistance please: 1965 deck lid spring replacements

Hi all, looking for some help on installing 2 new springs on my deck lid. sent the lid out to be repainted, deck lid was not staying up when trying to store top. I took out the two springs and now want to install the replacements correctly. Looking for some pictures of where the spring attaches both on top and where on the bottom. I see that the top of the spring can be placed on three different notches. Due to it's age, I can't see where I need to connect the bottom of the spring. Do the open ends of the spring face to the inside of the car or towards the outside. Thx, Chuck
Old 01-21-2017, 11:10 PM
  #2  
buns
Safety Car
 
buns's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,142
Received 690 Likes on 537 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sullyvette
Due to it's age, I can't see where I need to connect the bottom of the spring.
The bottom attachment point is prone to rusting away. Mine were gone. Replacements are available. The AIM suggests using the center
/upper mounting point.







To install the new spring, stretch it using a floor jack, and install shims. After the spring is attached, close the deck lid and the shims will fall out.




The following 2 users liked this post by buns:
Sullyvette (01-22-2017), USMC 0802 (01-22-2017)
Old 01-22-2017, 08:10 AM
  #3  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default

Thank you, I'll inspect the lower site and go from there. Sully
Old 01-22-2017, 09:46 AM
  #4  
Roger Walling
Melting Slicks
 
Roger Walling's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: Chicopee MA.
Posts: 2,724
Received 1,606 Likes on 665 Posts

Default

To lengthen a spring for installation, simply clamp the loop end in a vise and bend it 90 degrees. Place a thick washer in the space , then bend it the other way and instal another washer.
Keep it up until it is long enough to instal by hand. Close the hood or trunk and the washers fall out.
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (02-04-2017)
Old 01-22-2017, 11:48 AM
  #5  
Bluestripe67
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bluestripe67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Close to DC
Posts: 14,547
Received 2,127 Likes on 1,466 Posts
C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020

Default

This task will try your mechanical talent and your patience. Be careful, the spring has a lot power coiled up. Search under my name for the same subject and you will read about my effort. Dennis
Old 01-22-2017, 05:21 PM
  #6  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default

Is the lower spring clip a separate piece? Can I put it on top of the bracket, I think I'm going to have trouble placing it underneath. Remnants of rusted metal remain. I didn't intend on taking the complete bracket out, will do if I must remove. Thoughts?
Had to resort to sawzall to remove someone's weld (Bubba style) repair to passenger side.
Thx, Chuck
Old 01-22-2017, 05:41 PM
  #7  
Bluestripe67
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bluestripe67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Close to DC
Posts: 14,547
Received 2,127 Likes on 1,466 Posts
C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020

Default

Someone above said to bend the bottom hook of the spring just a little. Do not straighten it. The reason is, if the catch, which is part of the full bracket at the bottom of the bracket is strong enough, the bend will allow you to catch the spring end easier because of the changed angle of the end. But having said that, if the catch is rusted, it may not be strong enough to hold the spring under full tension. That leads to the whole bracket replacement which is no fun. Can you get some pics of this? Dennis
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (02-04-2017)
Old 01-22-2017, 05:43 PM
  #8  
66jack
Team Owner
 
66jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 30,357
Received 830 Likes on 574 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=Sullyvette;1593926320 Is the lower spring clip a separate piece? Can I put it on top of the bracket, I think I'm going to have trouble placing it underneath. Remnants of rusted metal remain. I didn't intend on taking the complete bracket out, will do if I must remove. Thoughts?
Had to resort to sawzall to remove someone's weld (Bubba style) repair to passenger side.
Thx, Chuck[/QUOTE]


YES

Part # 542015...1963-1975
$26.50

Corvette central...


http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...size=50&page=1

:::EDIT:::

You'll have to take out the bolt to put them in...

Last edited by 66jack; 01-22-2017 at 05:57 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (02-04-2017)
Old 01-22-2017, 05:49 PM
  #9  
Bluestripe67
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bluestripe67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Close to DC
Posts: 14,547
Received 2,127 Likes on 1,466 Posts
C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020

Default

Wow Jack! Never knew the catch was a separate part. Thanks, Dennis
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (02-04-2017)
Old 01-22-2017, 06:34 PM
  #10  
Easy Rhino
Team Owner

 
Easy Rhino's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: Coloring within the lines
Posts: 27,349
Received 1,920 Likes on 1,333 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 66jack
YES

Part # 542015...1963-1975
$26.50

Corvette central...


http://www.parts123.com/corvettecent...size=50&page=1

:::EDIT:::

You'll have to take out the bolt to put them in...
He's right, they are separate.

However I hope Bubba hasn't been into yours.

If the fasteners that bolt the hinge/spring assemblies to the body are frozen, or stripped, or in any way buggered up, you might have a bigger problem. Getting to the metal frames to which the fasteners attach is an adventure in itself.

Good luck!
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (01-23-2017)
Old 01-23-2017, 10:41 PM
  #11  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default

Thank you for your suggestions. I ordered the lower clips today, along with the bolt kit. Still working on getting the passenger side bolt out. I'm thinking a key hole saw or putty knife might clean out the remnants under the existing tower. Wish me luck, lower clips are back ordered. Thx, Sully
Old 01-24-2017, 07:28 AM
  #12  
Easy Rhino
Team Owner

 
Easy Rhino's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: Coloring within the lines
Posts: 27,349
Received 1,920 Likes on 1,333 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sullyvette
Wish me luck, lower clips are back ordered. Thx, Sully
Good luck.

While being back ordered is not that unusual for these car's parts, that might say something about how many of these require replacement. Like mine

Might want to call around to other parts vendors and see if any are on the shelf out there, if you're in a hurry.
The following users liked this post:
Sullyvette (02-04-2017)
Old 02-04-2017, 02:49 PM
  #13  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default

Gott'r Done. Thanks to the assistance from my son, Daniel and numerous Forum members. The trick with stretching the spring with the race jack was among the best. I filled the gaps with wood cabinet shims. I cut them in a vice and placed them in between the spring gaps. It made the spring installation a breeze. I hope the enclosed photo's show how easy this was. Now, as soon as the deck lid gets painted, I can re-install the lid and get ready for the spring jaunt. Thanks again

Guy's


Old 02-04-2017, 02:50 PM
  #14  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default Best advice yet

Originally Posted by buns
The bottom attachment point is prone to rusting away. Mine were gone. Replacements are available. The AIM suggests using the center
/upper mounting point.







To install the new spring, stretch it using a floor jack, and install shims. After the spring is attached, close the deck lid and the shims will fall out.




Old 02-04-2017, 03:11 PM
  #15  
warrenmj
Melting Slicks<br><img src="/forums/images/ranks/3k-4k.gif" border="0">

Support Corvetteforum!
 
warrenmj's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Colorado Springs Colorado
Posts: 3,086
Received 1,946 Likes on 704 Posts
2023 C2 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified

Default

Great info from several guys on this post. I hope I don't have to replace mine, but after reading this, I'll be a lot more comfortable tackling it if I ever need to.
Old 02-04-2017, 03:26 PM
  #16  
Easy Rhino
Team Owner

 
Easy Rhino's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: Coloring within the lines
Posts: 27,349
Received 1,920 Likes on 1,333 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sullyvette
Gott'r Done. Thanks to the assistance from my son, Daniel and numerous Forum members. The trick with stretching the spring with the race jack was among the best. I filled the gaps with wood cabinet shims. I cut them in a vice and placed them in between the spring gaps. It made the spring installation a breeze. I hope the enclosed photo's show how easy this was. Now, as soon as the deck lid gets painted, I can re-install the lid and get ready for the spring jaunt. Thanks again

Guy's


Great pics that will probably be linked in the future for helping others.

I need to get off my lazy butt and fix mine.
The following users liked this post:
smacota1 (02-22-2018)
Old 02-20-2018, 02:59 PM
  #17  
Sullyvette
Pro
Thread Starter
 
Sullyvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2005
Location: Latham New York
Posts: 717
Received 241 Likes on 96 Posts

Default

Deck lid spring. I now want to move the top of the spring to the forward most notch. How do I expand the spring while keeping the spring in the car? I only need a 1/4 inch. Is there a tool out there for this? I put shims in last night but couldn't get the extra height to be able to move the spring to the next notch. My deck lid will drop about 8-10 inches as it's positioned now. The third highest notch would put more tension on the spring and keep it from dropping. Thx, for any thoughts, Sully
Old 02-20-2018, 06:29 PM
  #18  
myers1wa
Heel & Toe
 
myers1wa's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2017
Location: Galion Ohio
Posts: 18
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Shim


Is there always a shim underneath? I have mine out right now to replace the springs and bottom catch, which were both rusted fairly badly. I don't recall there being a shim
Old 02-20-2018, 08:49 PM
  #19  
buns
Safety Car
 
buns's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,142
Received 690 Likes on 537 Posts

Default

Sullyvette, get your son to crawl into the back with shims and a flashlight, then close the lid. This will stretch the spring allowing installation of the shims. Then open the lid and move the spring.



myers1wa, I believe it is "shim as required".
The following 2 users liked this post by buns:
myers1wa (02-21-2018), smacota1 (02-22-2018)

Get notified of new replies

To Assistance please: 1965 deck lid spring replacements




Quick Reply: Assistance please: 1965 deck lid spring replacements



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:45 PM.