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Old 05-23-2017, 12:44 PM
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Default OEM sized tires that stick

I always have traction issues in first gear with my A8. I have the stock MPSS. Does any manufacturer make the correct size tire that will stick?
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Mickey Thompson makes a great-hooking DR in the factory size. Just a lot of us have tried them and had problems.

Some say not mixing front run-flats with them will fix the instability issues, but they were just too spooky for me.... changed lanes on the highway on their own, that sort of thing. I was still running the stock fronts (which I did on my C6Z without issue). Other may have different results.

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Originally Posted by DAVE396LT1
Mickey Thompson makes a great-hooking DR in the factory size. Just a lot of us have tried them and had problems.

Some say not mixing front run-flats with them will fix the instability issues, but they were just too spooky for me.... changed lanes on the highway on their own, that sort of thing. I was still running the stock fronts (which I did on my C6Z without issue). Other may have different results.
I may have to look into a drag pack then
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If you are not concerned with cold/wet performance or tire longevity, then the Z07 Cup2s hook up great when hot.
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
If you are not concerned with cold/wet performance or tire longevity, then the Z07 Cup2s hook up great when hot.
Thabk you. I may try those.
Old 05-24-2017, 02:38 PM
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I just replaced my Cup II tires after 9500 miles with MPSS-ZP. The Cups were sticky but the down side was getting caught on a wet pavement, not in the rain which I watched closely (note have lots of time to wait out showers). In the wet they become dangerous, meaning even driving very slow you won't be able to stop. Scarie steering control also when wet. Sticky also means picking up Screws, (like 3), to where I had to put plugs in to stop the leaks ( no shop close to me could dismount and patch). I did test the plugs to 125 several times but wouldn't trust them at 10/10. They have less traction below 60F so the power can't be used. Found myself quickly sideways about 45 degrees with all the nannies cutting power and brake steering to save the embarrassment. The MPSS have a slightly better ride but not a big deal.
Just my experience with my 15 Z06 A8.
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I may be the minority here but on my mostly street driven Z06- I HATED cups. I have the Z07 package so I have no experience with the super sports. I went with a 19X10/19X12 setup and have Toyo R888R's on the rear and the car hooks like a beast. My car is an M7 with full exhaust/halltech/tb and some other minor misc stuff and I can just about stomp on it in first and it hooks. It changed the driving experience for me. I never had confidence in the car before because even with everything turned on I have had the back come out on me more then I would like.
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Originally Posted by VetterFlyer
I just replaced my Cup II tires after 9500 miles with MPSS-ZP. The Cups were sticky but the down side was getting caught on a wet pavement, not in the rain which I watched closely (note have lots of time to wait out showers). In the wet they become dangerous, meaning even driving very slow you won't be able to stop. Scarie steering control also when wet. Sticky also means picking up Screws, (like 3), to where I had to put plugs in to stop the leaks ( no shop close to me could dismount and patch). I did test the plugs to 125 several times but wouldn't trust them at 10/10. They have less traction below 60F so the power can't be used. Found myself quickly sideways about 45 degrees with all the nannies cutting power and brake steering to save the embarrassment. The MPSS have a slightly better ride but not a big deal.
Just my experience with my 15 Z06 A8.
Never had those issues with my Cup2s. I have traded them for a set of PSS ZPs for a track event I plan on attending as I had enough miles on the Cup2s they could be an issue when driving on track at triple digit speeds in a downpour. However, for driving on the street or at highway speeds in the wet they were still fine. They gripped well on take off by just not tromping on the throttle and held well in turns and under braking. Weather mode worked exceptionally well.

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I run Kumho ACR's and Nitto NT05R drag radials most of the time. I've never had an issue with the NT05R's no matter what tires I had on the front of even if it was my 11GS or either Z06. My 2016 is an A8.
I've never looked back to Michelin and that was even when they wanted to sponsor me with their tires. The Michelin's are OK for easy daily driving, but I keep my competition tires on all the time and the MPSS's aren't even in the same zip code performance wise has been my experience with them. I also found out, the hard way, about the Cup 2 tires on my first Z06 a 2015 that was an M7 and had the Z07 package. JMHO
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Mickey Thompson has stock rear size and as long as you change out the front run flat tires you will be fine. I know of 3 guys that went with route and they love them. They put Continental Extreme Contact non run flat up front. I'm putting 18" Mickey Thompson on the back of mine and the Continentals up front on Friday as long as weather is good..
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I may try the Mickey's after my Nitto's are done next time.
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Those complaining about the MT with run flats, I'm curious to what psi they are / were running in the rear...
Personally I go all out for dry performance, I'd rock Hankook Ventus V12s over the conti or kuhmos. Their dry performance for the money is unmatched.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Never had those issues with my Cup2s. I have traded them for a set of PSS ZPs for a track event I plan on attending as I had enough miles on the Cup2s they could be an issue when driving on track at triple digit speeds in a downpour. However, for driving on the street or at highway speeds in the wet they were still fine. They gripped well on take off by just not tromping on the throttle and held well in turns and under braking. Weather mode worked exceptionally well.

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Bill. Weather mode is not for me. I am into drag racing. The stock tires due a poor job for off the line performance. No grip ever if I get on it.
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Those complaining about the MT with run flats, I'm curious to what psi they are / were running in the rear...
Personally I go all out for dry performance, I'd rock Hankook Ventus V12s over the conti or kuhmos. Their dry performance for the money is unmatched.
28 psi. My one buddy runs 30 and another 26. Bottom line is you have to change out the front run flats or you're going to crash.
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Bill was saying SC2's with Weather mode work well in the rain.
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Are you simply looking for a tire that hooks up well or will you actually be running at the drag strip?

I have the Continental Extreme Contact DW's and they almost always hook up, at least from a roll. I was out this winter on a dry sunny day at 20 degrees fahrenheit and they were still doing well. Perhaps it's just the car (elsd, heavier curb weight), but my C6Z could never hook up in first and only sometimes through second with almost any brand of street tire.

Even though the Continentals have a narrower tread width than other 335 tires, I highly recommend them for street use.

Edit: My Continentals are 285/30-19 front, 335/25-20 rear on M7 Z07

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Originally Posted by Mach.85
Are you simply looking for a tire that hooks up well or will you actually be running at the drag strip?

I have the Continental Extreme Contact DW's and they almost always hook up, at least from a roll. I was out this winter on a dry sunny day at 20 degrees fahrenheit and they were still doing well. Perhaps it's just the car (elsd, heavier curb weight), but my C6Z could never hook up in first and a only sometimes through second with almost any brand of street tire.

Even though the Continentals have a narrower tread width than other 335 tires, I highly recommend them for street use.

Edit: My Continentals are 285/30-19 front, 335/25-20 rear on M7 Z07
A tire that will hook well on the street in oem size.
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Originally Posted by BooSSted
Those complaining about the MT with run flats, I'm curious to what psi they are / were running in the rear...
Personally I go all out for dry performance, I'd rock Hankook Ventus V12s over the conti or kuhmos. Their dry performance for the money is unmatched.
Are the Hankooks available in the stock sizes?
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Originally Posted by stevebz06
Are the Hankooks available in the stock sizes?
Up front yes... Finding matching rears you will be extremely limited to a few tires.

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