Do Not Buy This Z06!!
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Do Not Buy This Z06!!
Unless you can get it for a good deal. This car has been making its rounds on the internet recently. It is a 2009 Z06 but its missing the LS7.. It has a LS3 engine installed and a dealer in Texas keeps sending it to auction and then those dealers are sending it back to the selling dealer. It has been returned to the selling dealer 2 times already and I assume its about to be a 3rd time. A car lot had it brought into my work to get a diag on a few concerns. I started looking it over and noticed the dry sump tank was missing, then saw the marking on the heads(0821). You can clearly see where the dry sump tank was and it just has connectors and module laying there loosely. The selling dealer is not disclosing the info I assume. The car is low miles (23,890) and super clean inside and out. It would be a good car to have if you could pick it up for a good price and not have to worry about the common ls7 issues. Just wanted to put this out there to help anyone from making a mistake and buying this car and being screwed over thinking they are getting a legit Z06. Last 8 of the VIN are 95106899. Currently owned by a small lot that bought it at auction and had shipped to here in Olathe, KS. I assume they are going to send it back to the selling dealer and get their money back.
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Looks like the original LS7 motor dropped a valve and destroyed the original motor. An LS3 was probably put in because it cost a lot less. I'd say without the original motor it would be worth about ten grand less than a ZO6 that is still original.
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So now it's a GS with different badges, aluminum frame, and trans gear ratios. Assuming the engine is either a crate motor or similar low mileage, pricing somewhere in the base to GS range is still a fair deal.
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Wonder how much they're willing to let it go for... I doubt they'll go through the hassle of sourcing and installing an LS7.
Last edited by bokyo1987; 05-26-2017 at 08:40 PM.
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I don't think it's worthless to a potential Corvette buyer at all. If it's priced closer to a base model than it is to a Z06, whoever picks it up would be getting a good deal (pending any mechanical issues of course).
If I were looking for a C6 right now with intentions of modding... I'd rather start with that (aluminum frame, better brakes, solid top/no targa) and add FI to the LS3 as opposed to buying a base model and adding widebody panels, bigger brakes, etc. That's just me though.
If I were looking for a C6 right now with intentions of modding... I'd rather start with that (aluminum frame, better brakes, solid top/no targa) and add FI to the LS3 as opposed to buying a base model and adding widebody panels, bigger brakes, etc. That's just me though.
Last edited by bokyo1987; 05-27-2017 at 04:25 AM.
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This sounds A LOT like a car that was at a Shell station in Pagosa Springs, CO a few weeks ago with a For Sale sign on the window. Black, built LS3, rebuilt title, Z06 emblems, wide body.......
Although, it may have been an 07'
Although, it may have been an 07'
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Its not a knock off Z06. It is a true Z06 that someone blew up the ls7 and swapped in a used ls3 into so they could trade the car in and not lose value. Luckily they found the right dealer to trade in too that was not smart enough to realize the important part missing of this car. From my research that is what I am getting from this deal. It definitely does not have a brand new or crate motor ls3 in it. Clearly looks used and a dealer made a big mistake taking this as trade and probably lost their *** now after they found out about the engine issue.
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Well at least there are smart people at the auctions, know to stay away from the car, and most Corvette people knows the difference in what engines goes into what cars.
Thanks for the informations!
Thanks for the informations!
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I can't be the only one who notices the difference in style just based off the intake manifold? I suppose if you are unaware of the different look of the LS7 IM you'd probably be none the wiser.
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Assuming familiarity w/ LS7 difference is quite noticeable, while a first time Corvette buyer wouldn't have a clue.
Real question's WTH at least one 'dealer' who'd bought it wouldn't have replaced the LS7, using their discount makes it 'wholesale' A mystery.
Chance to actually make some dough IF it was sold as a LS2/3 & discounted accordingly.
Appears once learned what it really is its returned/dumped.
Fear of being labeled a fraud's behind it, even tho' a replacement LS7's totally legit?
Pity, w/ a LS7 it'd regain it's glory instantly.
Be great if a buyer did just that, too.
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Yes I did notice that also but I mean even to the "untrained" corvette eye, when you see a big open hole with connectors just laying there? How does that not throw up a red flag that something is missing and not proper.
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I don't think it's worthless to a potential Corvette buyer at all. If it's priced closer to a base model than it is to a Z06, whoever picks it up would be getting a good deal (pending any mechanical issues of course).
If I were looking for a C6 right now with intentions of modding... I'd rather start with that (aluminum frame, better brakes, solid top/no targa) and add FI to the LS3 as opposed to buying a base model and adding widebody panels, bigger brakes, etc. That's just me though.
If I were looking for a C6 right now with intentions of modding... I'd rather start with that (aluminum frame, better brakes, solid top/no targa) and add FI to the LS3 as opposed to buying a base model and adding widebody panels, bigger brakes, etc. That's just me though.
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A better swap than a LS3? That's a pretty stout motor to start off with, Maybe why GM went with the 376 vs 427 motor to build the LS9 in the ZR1 cars?
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Last edited by R_W; 05-27-2017 at 06:32 PM.
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Its not a knock off Z06. It is a true Z06 that someone blew up the ls7 and swapped in a used ls3 into so they could trade the car in and not lose value. Luckily they found the right dealer to trade in too that was not smart enough to realize the important part missing of this car. From my research that is what I am getting from this deal. It definitely does not have a brand new or crate motor ls3 in it. Clearly looks used and a dealer made a big mistake taking this as trade and probably lost their *** now after they found out about the engine issue.
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