Mid Engine a part of C7
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Mid Engine a part of C7
Does anyone else think the mid engine corvette will be introduced as an option for the C7 model? I personally do not think the C8 will be introduced until maybe 2022. Maybe there is legitimate information on this topic that I am unaware of, and someone can inform me differently? Or just throw me your guys' opinions!
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I think such a radical difference in platform and design would have to be a separate and individual model (i.e. C8, Zora,etc)... versus an option.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
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Does anyone else think the mid engine corvette will be introduced as an option for the C7 model? I personally do not think the C8 will be introduced until maybe 2022. Maybe there is legitimate information on this topic that I am unaware of, and someone can inform me differently? Or just throw me your guys' opinions!
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Does anyone else think the mid engine corvette will be introduced as an option for the C7 model? I personally do not think the C8 will be introduced until maybe 2022. Maybe there is legitimate information on this topic that I am unaware of, and someone can inform me differently? Or just throw me your guys' opinions!
The mid engine is going to be a special, like the Ford GT. Over $100K, probably called the "Zora" or something unique like that, and probably only selling a few thousand over a few years. It won't look like or be an offshoot of the C7 but another model altogether and quite exotic. My best guess.
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I think such a radical difference in platform and design would have to be a separate and individual model (i.e. C8, Zora,etc)... versus an option.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
The marketing team will not allow revolution to arrive as an order checkbox. They'll milk it for every press opportunity they can come up with.
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it has been discussed in here and in the car magazines from supposed "insiders" that they will be produced simultaneously for some time (insert months or years here).
i can't imagine Chevy would take the chance of ONLY supplying the ME in a limited quantity and lose out on the 40k ish in sales they are pulling with this car.. even sold at a discount what do you think it costs GM to build a C7? they could sell this car for 39k and make money all day long. think about it... so instead of 8 or 10k ME cars they will continue to keep Corvette volume up around 40k with the FE/ME combo.
i can't imagine Chevy would take the chance of ONLY supplying the ME in a limited quantity and lose out on the 40k ish in sales they are pulling with this car.. even sold at a discount what do you think it costs GM to build a C7? they could sell this car for 39k and make money all day long. think about it... so instead of 8 or 10k ME cars they will continue to keep Corvette volume up around 40k with the FE/ME combo.
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it has been discussed in here and in the car magazines from supposed "insiders" that they will be produced simultaneously for some time (insert months or years here).
i can't imagine Chevy would take the chance of ONLY supplying the ME in a limited quantity and lose out on the 40k ish in sales they are pulling with this car.. even sold at a discount what do you think it costs GM to build a C7? they could sell this car for 39k and make money all day long. think about it... so instead of 8 or 10k ME cars they will continue to keep Corvette volume up around 40k with the FE/ME combo.
i can't imagine Chevy would take the chance of ONLY supplying the ME in a limited quantity and lose out on the 40k ish in sales they are pulling with this car.. even sold at a discount what do you think it costs GM to build a C7? they could sell this car for 39k and make money all day long. think about it... so instead of 8 or 10k ME cars they will continue to keep Corvette volume up around 40k with the FE/ME combo.
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Too many GM and Corvette personnel have specifically referenced the coming new car as the eight generation Corvette for it to simply be part of the C7 line.
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Want to hear it yourself, go to 5:30-5:55 in this video and hear Mark Reuss say that ”we are very proud of what’s going to happen for the C8.”
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I think you are right that the C8 will be 2020+. And I think it will be front engine and priced not far from the C7.
The mid engine is going to be a special, like the Ford GT. Over $100K, probably called the "Zora" or something unique like that, and probably only selling a few thousand over a few years. It won't look like or be an offshoot of the C7 but another model altogether and quite exotic. My best guess.
The mid engine is going to be a special, like the Ford GT. Over $100K, probably called the "Zora" or something unique like that, and probably only selling a few thousand over a few years. It won't look like or be an offshoot of the C7 but another model altogether and quite exotic. My best guess.
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I think such a radical difference in platform and design would have to be a separate and individual model (i.e. C8, Zora,etc)... versus an option.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
Making the ME "an option for the C7 model" would also drastically devalue the milestone achievement that a ME Corvette would represent.
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Want to hear it yourself, go to 5:30-5:55 in this video and hear Mark Reuss say that ”we are very proud of what’s going to happen for the C8.”
https://youtu.be/8wcdDDL-1uU
https://youtu.be/8wcdDDL-1uU
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I think you are right that the C8 will be 2020+. And I think it will be front engine and priced not far from the C7.
The mid engine is going to be a special, like the Ford GT. Over $100K, probably called the "Zora" or something unique like that, and probably only selling a few thousand over a few years. It won't look like or be an offshoot of the C7 but another model altogether and quite exotic. My best guess.
The mid engine is going to be a special, like the Ford GT. Over $100K, probably called the "Zora" or something unique like that, and probably only selling a few thousand over a few years. It won't look like or be an offshoot of the C7 but another model altogether and quite exotic. My best guess.
Reasons:
-GM is in the business of selling cars via volume. . . not spending massive R&D to crawl into an already severely crowded and small market segment. How many NSX’s or R8’s sold this year?
-Upper MGMT has already said the C7 was supposed to be ME but couldn’t due to financial issues at GM; they admitted the C7 is the pinnacle of what they could do w/ the layout at hand. This coming from a previous CEO of GM.
-In your world, it would suggest we haven’t seen a –single- thing on the development of the ‘actual’ c8 meaning it’s at least 3-4 years out. Upper management has also stated they don’t want a long generation run like the C6 had. (2005-2013 = 8 years). This would suggest the C7 will be around at least 9 years; the antithesis of what they explicitly stated they didn’t want.
-Most of the FGT buyers are speculators and did so as an investment. I tried to pick one up for that reason alone. The first FGT remake (~2005) you could buy one new for ~$125k. . . Good luck finding one now for under $250k; heritage edition will be $500k+ all day long. Because of that, this is the sort of ridiculousness you see with the new FGT:
https://www.dupontregistry.com/autos...ord/gt/1858963 – Yes, $1.9MM for a car that ~two years ago sold new for $450k.
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Sure it's a mid engine C8, don't think the realization has hit most that large cid's are going extinct and a key reason for a C8 is a smaller cid more efficient turbo engines! Need to recover some of the wasted 30% energy going out the exhaust! Small cid engines also have less friction when cruising.
Don't believe that? They are putting a 2.7 Liter 4 cylinder turbo in a vehicle that makes much more for GM that a Vette. They sell ~550,000 Silverado's and the macho folks who buy those will have a 320 hp turbo L4 in 2019! That's NOT 2022!
Look up the required Corporate mpg goal for Corvette size sports cars.. In 2025 it's 56 mpg! Even if negotiated to 50 (GM is proposing a compromise so they don't have to make different cars for CA and a few other states who are dictating better mpg) my guess is it will be ~50 mpg! Not for you, for GM to avoid big financial penalties for every mpg they miss per car sold! Can't come close with a big V8! Especially a pushrod engine!
Times are a changing!
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Elegant, what does this Mark Reuss guy know about anything Corvette-related? Everyone else’s contacts and insiders have already spilled the beans on the C7 lasting until 2025, the new camo’d car is an ultra-super-hyper-performance hybrid Zora-Caddy mix (Zora emblem on the front, Caddy on the rear) that will be uber-exclusive to only the first 13 people while simultaneously releasing the new Corvette SUV & Corvette pick-up trucks for the stay-at-home soccer moms & urban cowboys respectively.
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Exactly, which is why I’m going with all the forum insiders who risk life & limb to expose the truth of the $200k hyper Zora camo’d car & the continuation of the C7s that are clogging up dealer lots & being sold at huge discounts - only makes perfect sense!
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Sorry Jab, there's so much craziness here, that your post initially looked like it came from a loon who actually believes the type of stuff you wrote.