[ZR1] NX direct meth port?
#2
Racer
I sent them an email out to Nitrous Outlet asking if their spray bars could be used for meth but never got a response. I’m very hesitant to drill into the lid to put nozzles, but post brick methanol is something I need to figure out soon.
#3
I did not get an answer back on the spray bars either.
Jokerz advertises a coating for the rotors which is supposed to allow you to be able to shoot meth through the rotors but probably nowhere near the amount your looking at. The coating looks like its just sprayed on. Heres a photo
Jokerz advertises a coating for the rotors which is supposed to allow you to be able to shoot meth through the rotors but probably nowhere near the amount your looking at. The coating looks like its just sprayed on. Heres a photo
#4
Racer
I think he Cerakotes the rotors. I have one if his ported Lingenfelter snouts. The rest of the blower was ported heavily to match his Chaos port on the snout. I have BG 1600 being applied to all the internal passages of my blower, and underside of my lid this week so the methanol doesn’t attack the aluminum. I don’t want to spray in the front because all of the heat is generated in the rotor pack. The discharge air is super hot, and the bricks are whatever I can get the water temp down to. The greater the differential, the more heat is transferred into the intercooler system. Then I can use the latent heat if vaporization to pull more out of the charge after the bricks have done what they can do.
There is a guy that I know that can make micro perforated stainless spray bars. I haven’t done any testing on that idea, but the setup fee is 800. This is done with a laser so getting micron size holes in a stainless bar is possible. After that is done, perforating the pipe is about 50 dollars per spray bar once the setup is complete.
There is a guy that I know that can make micro perforated stainless spray bars. I haven’t done any testing on that idea, but the setup fee is 800. This is done with a laser so getting micron size holes in a stainless bar is possible. After that is done, perforating the pipe is about 50 dollars per spray bar once the setup is complete.
Last edited by Silvah Goat; 02-14-2018 at 12:51 PM.
#6
Racer
He does the lower bolt delete on the snout. The support is usually knife edged, and not removed. The lower bolt threaded area gets carved out and filled.
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#7
Racer
Well no one making spray bars has gotten back to me regarding the LS9 spray bars so I ordered up an 8 port DI Prometh setup, pulse solenoid, and all the stainless 4an fittings etc. That was the easy part.
Drilling and tapping 8 holes into a perfect LS9 lid is going to be painful. I had all the post rotor passages coated in Teflon so the raw meth should never effect the aluminum.
Drilling and tapping 8 holes into a perfect LS9 lid is going to be painful. I had all the post rotor passages coated in Teflon so the raw meth should never effect the aluminum.
Last edited by Silvah Goat; 11-25-2018 at 09:54 PM.
#9
Racer
they did not get stripped as the rotor coating was still almost 100%. They were degreased with alcohol as it does not destroy the coating. An additional mil was put on over it, and surprisingly seems to be sticking extremely well, I bench ran the blower at 3k for about 10 minutes and all is good. The clearance is soooo tight, I would not want to go more.
#11
Le Mans Master
These things are not hard to port at all. Why not disassemble it and port it yourself? Get some free HP. In the Cobra world, dudes were picking up 50-60 rw from porting out the h-eatons.
#12
Racer
Last edited by Silvah Goat; 11-25-2018 at 09:54 PM.
#13
Le Mans Master
Nice!
#14
Safety Car
Thread Starter
looking forward to your results...I'm guessing it should be close to the same as what the LT4 crowd are seeing since they have meth bars for their blowers
#15
Racer
This is what I came up with. I’m still not over drilling 8 holes in the lid but they tapped very nicely, and tightened up perfectly.
I’ll take more photos soon, but all the lines are parallel, the angle of the camera makes them look like **** lol.
The brick mounts are in the way of putting the nozzles directly over the front two cylinders, but the rest are fine. Also had to relocate the MAP sensor but I capped it with an LSA port cap. I am making a manifold for other pressure related stuff so I’ll relocate the map to that. Also if you want to preserve the engine cover, you’ll have to shift the nozzles a touch. I had to bend the 90s off the cover by filling the pipes with granular baking soda and pinching the end. I have 3 tubing benders and nothing got a radius close enough where it didn’t hit the cover. As of right now, I have to lightly remove some plastic under the cover as the front 2 nozzles hit by less than an 1/8”.
I’ll take more photos soon, but all the lines are parallel, the angle of the camera makes them look like **** lol.
The brick mounts are in the way of putting the nozzles directly over the front two cylinders, but the rest are fine. Also had to relocate the MAP sensor but I capped it with an LSA port cap. I am making a manifold for other pressure related stuff so I’ll relocate the map to that. Also if you want to preserve the engine cover, you’ll have to shift the nozzles a touch. I had to bend the 90s off the cover by filling the pipes with granular baking soda and pinching the end. I have 3 tubing benders and nothing got a radius close enough where it didn’t hit the cover. As of right now, I have to lightly remove some plastic under the cover as the front 2 nozzles hit by less than an 1/8”.
Last edited by Silvah Goat; 11-25-2018 at 09:54 PM.
#16
This looks great. How do you like the Pro Meth stuff ?
I was thinking of installing two jets direct center in the rear of the lid to spray right into the air feed of the rotors as it could all be hidden. I think it would distribute well but I would loose some efficiency of the factory intercoolers as you mentioned.
Have you tested it on the car yet ?
I was thinking of installing two jets direct center in the rear of the lid to spray right into the air feed of the rotors as it could all be hidden. I think it would distribute well but I would loose some efficiency of the factory intercoolers as you mentioned.
Have you tested it on the car yet ?
#17
Racer
This looks great. How do you like the Pro Meth stuff ?
I was thinking of installing two jets direct center in the rear of the lid to spray right into the air feed of the rotors as it could all be hidden. I think it would distribute well but I would loose some efficiency of the factory intercoolers as you mentioned.
Have you tested it on the car yet ?
I was thinking of installing two jets direct center in the rear of the lid to spray right into the air feed of the rotors as it could all be hidden. I think it would distribute well but I would loose some efficiency of the factory intercoolers as you mentioned.
Have you tested it on the car yet ?
#19
Pro
SG, the build is awesome, the coatings look great, your plumbing work is fantastic. BUT, there is no need for a coating when running meth. Unless you are going to turn the ignition on, spray the meth and then let the car sit for a weeks at a time it is not a concern. The meth is sprayed, mixed and burned. It is long gone by the time you get off the track or get back to your house. It is advisable to change your oil more often though.