2019 vs 2018 vs 2017 pricing
#1
Melting Slicks
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2019 vs 2018 vs 2017 pricing
I just looked at Kerbeck's site comparing prices. Considering the 2019's have the paint issue taken care of. It's really not a huge difference in pricing to get a 2019 vs the previous model years. Looks like around a $2500 / $3000 difference comparing the 2019 to the 2018. When you take into consideration the depreciation of a 1 model year old car once you drive off the lot, it's really negligible.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
#2
All 18's starting in November 2017 were painted in the new plant, so they are equivalent to 19s in that regard. Moreover, there are zero differences between 18s and 19s. Depreciation 3 years from now will be round-off error on a one MY difference, so that's a non-factor. You'll pay more now, but you won't get it back later. Mileage and condition are the deciding factors, not MY.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18. It is substantially better than my '14, which I still thought looked great, but it is still not flawless.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18. It is substantially better than my '14, which I still thought looked great, but it is still not flawless.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-14-2018 at 04:32 PM.
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#3
Race Director
I just looked at Kerbeck's site comparing prices. Considering the 2019's have the paint issue taken care of. It's really not a huge difference in pricing to get a 2019 vs the previous model years. Looks like around a $2500 / $3000 difference comparing the 2019 to the 2018. When you take into consideration the depreciation of a 1 model year old car once you drive off the lot, it's really negligible.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
I'm hearing some 2018s coming from new paint shop do seem to have better quality paint jobs.
Last edited by Kevin A Jones; 02-14-2018 at 04:00 PM.
#4
All 18's starting in November 2017 were painted in the new plant, so they are equivalent to 19s in that regard. Moreover, there are zero differences between 18s and 19s. Depreciation 3 years from now will be round-off error on a one MY difference, so that's a non-factor. You'll pay more now, but you won't get it back later. Mileage and condition are the deciding factors, not MY.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18.
#5
The panels are painted and cured well before assembly, probably at least a week or more, and the general guidance has always been to wait about a month after paint. You'll probably be there by the time you take delivery.
However, most say you don't need to wait at all with the factory paint curing process.
However, most say you don't need to wait at all with the factory paint curing process.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-14-2018 at 04:16 PM.
#6
They are definitely not flawless. I visited my dealer today to look at a dozen 2019s that were delivered yesterday. The paint jobs (at least on the exposed drivers doors) do appear to be much better, but I was still able to find some orange peel areas. All of the cars were still wrapped. They had a LBR Stingray that looked the best.
#7
Platinum Supporting Dealership
I just looked at Kerbeck's site comparing prices. Considering the 2019's have the paint issue taken care of. It's really not a huge difference in pricing to get a 2019 vs the previous model years. Looks like around a $2500 / $3000 difference comparing the 2019 to the 2018. When you take into consideration the depreciation of a 1 model year old car once you drive off the lot, it's really negligible.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
I suppose if you can find a 2017 or 2018 that is discounted very substantially that has flawless paint, it's still worth considering, but overall a 2019 looks like the best option.
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#8
"Flawless" is only possible when panels are hand-finished until they glassy smooth before paint. They must then be wet-sanded between, primer, base, and clear coats, and polished after both base and clear. Those are $30K or more paint jobs, and you're looking at a minimum of 40 hours of hand labor.
#9
Melting Slicks
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"Flawless" is only possible when panels are hand-finished until they glassy smooth before paint. They must then be wet-sanded between, primer, base, and clear coats, and polished after both base and clear. Those are $30K or more paint jobs, and you're looking at a minimum of 40 hours of hand labor.
#10
Instructor
All 18's starting in November 2017 were painted in the new plant, so they are equivalent to 19s in that regard. Moreover, there are zero differences between 18s and 19s.
Last edited by Guitarking1; 02-14-2018 at 06:04 PM.
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#12
All 18's starting in November 2017 were painted in the new plant, so they are equivalent to 19s in that regard. Moreover, there are zero differences between 18s and 19s. Depreciation 3 years from now will be round-off error on a one MY difference, so that's a non-factor. You'll pay more now, but you won't get it back later. Mileage and condition are the deciding factors, not MY.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18. It is substantially better than my '14, which I still thought looked great, but it is still not flawless.
Lastly, there is no such thing as "flawless" paint even on the cars from the new paint plant, but they are substantially better. I just spent an entire weekend with polish and wax going over my new '18 built 1/18/18. It is substantially better than my '14, which I still thought looked great, but it is still not flawless.
#13
I'm not sure what your point is. I couldn't care less whether it is an 18 or a 19, but I am very happy to have a car produced in the new plant. I ordered from Mike Furman 2 days before the 18 order cut-off, and I had the choice of waiting a few days to order a 19. I got a better deal ordering an 18, and I knew there were no differences. It was delivered to the dealer on 2/6/18 after 19's were being produced, and I took delivery on 2/8/18.
As I said, the paint finish is significantly better on all cars from the new paint plant. Moreover, there are no differences in cars built after the plant re-opened in November 2017, other than the type of oil they are filled with, 5W-30 vs 0W-40, beginning on January 29.
Normally, there is a minimum 4-week plant shutdown between the MY changeover, at which time any changes are incorporated. In a normal year, 2018s would be produced through June/July 2018. This year, for marketing reasons that are not at all clear, cars finished on January 26 were 18s, and then magically by a "stroke of the [VIN] pen," over the weekend they became 19's on January 29.
I hate to say it, but GM is playing games by calling the same product a new MY 6 months early to try to stimulate sales. It's not going to create a backlog of previous MY stock since only about 9K 18's were built (because of the short MY and nearly 5 months of plant closure) compared to nearly 40K produced in 2014. If having a 19 label is worth $2-3K more to you for the identical product, then by all means go for the 19.
As I said, the paint finish is significantly better on all cars from the new paint plant. Moreover, there are no differences in cars built after the plant re-opened in November 2017, other than the type of oil they are filled with, 5W-30 vs 0W-40, beginning on January 29.
Normally, there is a minimum 4-week plant shutdown between the MY changeover, at which time any changes are incorporated. In a normal year, 2018s would be produced through June/July 2018. This year, for marketing reasons that are not at all clear, cars finished on January 26 were 18s, and then magically by a "stroke of the [VIN] pen," over the weekend they became 19's on January 29.
I hate to say it, but GM is playing games by calling the same product a new MY 6 months early to try to stimulate sales. It's not going to create a backlog of previous MY stock since only about 9K 18's were built (because of the short MY and nearly 5 months of plant closure) compared to nearly 40K produced in 2014. If having a 19 label is worth $2-3K more to you for the identical product, then by all means go for the 19.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-15-2018 at 12:37 AM. Reason: More info
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#14
I have no point, I got 11,150 below sticker on a 19 GS. Like you said they are the same car. And both great cars.
#15
Le Mans Master
When you decide on your New Car Purchase.Either it be waiting or not.When your finally driving it after break in.
You will say their is no price,saved or payed.Why you went without owning one sooner.
What The HEll are you waiting for
You will say their is no price,saved or payed.Why you went without owning one sooner.
What The HEll are you waiting for
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#16
It's all dependent on what you want in your new C7.
Which one are you going to go with, and why?
Which one are you going to go with, and why?
#17
However, percentage off sticker is more meaningful than the dollar amount, since there is a huge MSRP spread on all models depending upon options (1LT/Z, 2LT/Z or 3LT/Z among others).
#18
A lot depends on the particular Chevrolet dealer availability/inventory.
#19
#20
15% off. There all great cars