Is this a Newman teak wheel
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Do you mean Freeman?
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Newman!
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I will be very interested in comments about whether or not this is an original or a Freeman wheel. I have been looking for a decent teak wheel and these pictures provide great detail, original or not. Several folks have offered me a 15 inch wheel which is clearly a repo but I think Freeman did some of those as well.
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It will be for sale as soon as I can determine whether or not it is in fact a Freeman wheel. I don't want to advertise it as a Freeman wheel if it isn't one.
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The expert is provette67. He has more teak wheels than the number of shoes my daughter and wife own!
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I was in the middle of editing my comment with some actual useful information when we lost internet svc here. Let me try again:
If I recall correctly, the repro Eric Freeman or Teakmaster wheels have shaper edges on the inside and the outside of the spokes. The OEM wheels (including the plastic walnut-look units) are softer and a bit more rounded. If you have an OEM nearby wheel you can compare them. I also feel as though the repros don't weigh as much as the OEM wheels.
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If I recall correctly, the repro Eric Freeman or Teakmaster wheels have shaper edges on the inside and the outside of the spokes. The OEM wheels (including the plastic walnut-look units) are softer and a bit more rounded. If you have an OEM nearby wheel you can compare them. I also feel as though the repros don't weigh as much as the OEM wheels.
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provette67:
"Many here have hit on some of the differences. None are major but they are there.A misnomer is "he had it for 20yrs". I bought my first Corvette in 1977. A maroon/saddle '66 roadster. I bought it from the original owner. He was a hoarder who gave me all kinds of great paperwork and his collection of old vette magazines. I found repop teak wheels for sale in ads from 1971. As mentioned here earlier it is a feel thing for many. Many of the repops were made with off shore made center sections. That is why the the edges are sharper. Some have even been found to be just a bit shallower in depth as well. Some were made without real teak and rosewood to save money in production. Many times the finger grips on the backside are different. The width of the wood itself many times is thicker on the repops. It all adds up. In person it takes me less than 30sec to tell original vs repop. When I setup with a few parts at Bloomington or Carlisle I usually bring a few wheels with me. A couple repops as well as a couple originals. People ask the differences. I point out a few things and they all quickly can tell the differences as well. Some people don't care if is a an original wheel or not. They just want one because they look good. Which they do. They also feel great. Others like me have to have original when ever possible. Some here that know me know that I am very meticulous about my passions. Teak wheels are one of my passions. My wife among others think that I have taken that passion way to far. Yes I admit that I have several original teak wheels including one that is NOS in the original box. Like I tell my wife unlike her shoes the value of the wheels don't go down. Now even the price of the repops have gone up close to what an original sells for. So others must like them as well."
"Many here have hit on some of the differences. None are major but they are there.A misnomer is "he had it for 20yrs". I bought my first Corvette in 1977. A maroon/saddle '66 roadster. I bought it from the original owner. He was a hoarder who gave me all kinds of great paperwork and his collection of old vette magazines. I found repop teak wheels for sale in ads from 1971. As mentioned here earlier it is a feel thing for many. Many of the repops were made with off shore made center sections. That is why the the edges are sharper. Some have even been found to be just a bit shallower in depth as well. Some were made without real teak and rosewood to save money in production. Many times the finger grips on the backside are different. The width of the wood itself many times is thicker on the repops. It all adds up. In person it takes me less than 30sec to tell original vs repop. When I setup with a few parts at Bloomington or Carlisle I usually bring a few wheels with me. A couple repops as well as a couple originals. People ask the differences. I point out a few things and they all quickly can tell the differences as well. Some people don't care if is a an original wheel or not. They just want one because they look good. Which they do. They also feel great. Others like me have to have original when ever possible. Some here that know me know that I am very meticulous about my passions. Teak wheels are one of my passions. My wife among others think that I have taken that passion way to far. Yes I admit that I have several original teak wheels including one that is NOS in the original box. Like I tell my wife unlike her shoes the value of the wheels don't go down. Now even the price of the repops have gone up close to what an original sells for. So others must like them as well."
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This is what I recall reading about them, that the finger grooves are sharper-edged on the Freeman wheels and more rounded off on the OEM wheels, but I'm no expert.
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"Many here have hit on some of the differences. None are major but they are there.A misnomer is "he had it for 20yrs". I bought my first Corvette in 1977. A maroon/saddle '66 roadster. I bought it from the original owner. He was a hoarder who gave me all kinds of great paperwork and his collection of old vette magazines. I found repop teak wheels for sale in ads from 1971. As mentioned here earlier it is a feel thing for many. Many of the repops were made with off shore made center sections. That is why the the edges are sharper. Some have even been found to be just a bit shallower in depth as well. Some were made without real teak and rosewood to save money in production. Many times the finger grips on the backside are different. The width of the wood itself many times is thicker on the repops. It all adds up. In person it takes me less than 30sec to tell original vs repop. When I setup with a few parts at Bloomington or Carlisle I usually bring a few wheels with me. A couple repops as well as a couple originals. People ask the differences. I point out a few things and they all quickly can tell the differences as well. Some people don't care if is a an original wheel or not. They just want one because they look good. Which they do. They also feel great. Others like me have to have original when ever possible. Some here that know me know that I am very meticulous about my passions. Teak wheels are one of my passions. My wife among others think that I have taken that passion way to far. Yes I admit that I have several original teak wheels including one that is NOS in the original box. Like I tell my wife unlike her shoes the value of the wheels don't go down. Now even the price of the repops have gone up close to what an original sells for. So others must like them as well."
"Many here have hit on some of the differences. None are major but they are there.A misnomer is "he had it for 20yrs". I bought my first Corvette in 1977. A maroon/saddle '66 roadster. I bought it from the original owner. He was a hoarder who gave me all kinds of great paperwork and his collection of old vette magazines. I found repop teak wheels for sale in ads from 1971. As mentioned here earlier it is a feel thing for many. Many of the repops were made with off shore made center sections. That is why the the edges are sharper. Some have even been found to be just a bit shallower in depth as well. Some were made without real teak and rosewood to save money in production. Many times the finger grips on the backside are different. The width of the wood itself many times is thicker on the repops. It all adds up. In person it takes me less than 30sec to tell original vs repop. When I setup with a few parts at Bloomington or Carlisle I usually bring a few wheels with me. A couple repops as well as a couple originals. People ask the differences. I point out a few things and they all quickly can tell the differences as well. Some people don't care if is a an original wheel or not. They just want one because they look good. Which they do. They also feel great. Others like me have to have original when ever possible. Some here that know me know that I am very meticulous about my passions. Teak wheels are one of my passions. My wife among others think that I have taken that passion way to far. Yes I admit that I have several original teak wheels including one that is NOS in the original box. Like I tell my wife unlike her shoes the value of the wheels don't go down. Now even the price of the repops have gone up close to what an original sells for. So others must like them as well."
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IMHO the edges look to be shaper than the OEM. Some of the repro wheels also tend to be constructed with a lighter shade of wood, or maybe it's just that the OEM wheels have been around longer and the oil transfer from the skin darkens the finish. I think that you have a reproduction Eric Freeman or Doug Graves/Teakmaster wheel.
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I was quoting provette67 from this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...eak-wheel.html
For additional info, go to search and type in "provette67 teak wheel". There are several good threads to read.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...eak-wheel.html
For additional info, go to search and type in "provette67 teak wheel". There are several good threads to read.
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Speaking of repo teak wheels
Speaking of repo teak wheels, has anyone seen on of these in person?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-C2...53.m1438.l2649
Ad states: "Excellent reproduction made in the Netherlands. If the item is on back order, you will be notified within 48 hrs."
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-C2...53.m1438.l2649
Ad states: "Excellent reproduction made in the Netherlands. If the item is on back order, you will be notified within 48 hrs."
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To dark and reddish to be confused with a real teak wheel
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It is a 15" wheel so no confusing it with an original. Too difficult to determine anything with one small picture that you can not zoom in on. I would like to hear from someone that has held one in their hand.
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I know it is not an original teak wheel. I was just trying to figure out if it was a Freeman reproduction teak wheel.
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They are commenting on the wheel in the link I posted about a new reproduction wheel on Ebay for $450. not the wheel in your opening post. To answer your original question it is likely that MOST people will not be able to tell the difference between a Freeman repo and an original. If you can't determine it then advertise it as "you don't know."