dajayc

Quick background;
I owned a 2015 stingray and put 65,000 miles on it. Loved every bit of it, enough to spring for a Z06.

Bought a 2017 w/ Z07 package back in May. I have about 8600 miles on it. I swapped the cup tires out at about 6k miles. I just cannot see myself going to an automatic, I love manual cars.

I just get the sense that this car is too powerful for me. I love the looks and sound, but it gets very frustrating when even in third gear going 35-40 giving it 40% gas the wheels can spin. Sure it can be fun to do that, but when I am not trying to, or suspecting that to happen, it can be quite a fright. Zero desire for a grand sport; other cars I consider looking at an E63, a CLS 63, RS7, etc. However these are all automatic, and four door sedans.

Any one with a direct comparison to.. dare I say a porsche..!? Although to get the same performance I would have to be looking at a GT3. Otherwise a used older R8 since they dont make manuals anymore?

I just dont like the fact that I cant get the power to the ground. Does warmer temperature really make that much of a difference? Im in Seattle, so sure it was sunny the other day but also under 40 degrees...

trevor90

absolutely warmer temps make a difference. I'd consider the r8, but only FL model. Old one just looks too dated now. But you want manual, so for this type of performance i'd say yes, P car it is.


Visited Seattle 2 months ago, clean city, nice people. Can't wait to go back! Go Hawks!

BHANSON

I use Sottozeros3 Pirellis in temps below 70 degrees. The rears are 305s and stick very well in cold weather and my car is a Callaway.

Basil2000

991.2 gt3 is a sweet car and my guess is it has more usable power on the street than the Z, just get ready to spend 160k or so. If you need a MT not much to choose from. The traction in the Z will definitely get better with the warmer weather. Give it some time, you really cant beat the Z. Why would you not go for the grand sport? Very usable power for the street and way cheaper than everything else.

oldC5

Go buy yourself a Miata or Cayman S in manual.Both cars are awesome on the street or track.

Steve Snake Driver

Leave the mode switch in wet mode (not track wet) until it gets warmer.

davepl

AWD.

I just drove a Tesla P100D and even though it weighs about 10 tons, the thing drives like the world's most powerful go-cart. It's point-and-click, basically. Point where you want it, push pedal, it is there. Then your guts catch up a second later.

Is it a sports car? No, and there are problems with sustained hard driving I guess, but it was a BLAST to drive.

I'd rather drive the Z on a nice dry day, but if conditions aren't perfect, hard to beat electronic AWD. I haven't had so much fun since my old Talon TSi AWD Turbo back in the 90s. If putting power to the ground is important to you, you'll appreciate it. Worth a test drive! I have no idea if it's a useful or practical car for your purposes, I'm speaking strictly from a "frustration of putting power to use" level.

BTW, I also have an Audi S8 with the V10, which is AWD, but somehow the Tesla is grippier and more predictable. I guess that's what happens when a computer runs each wheel more or less.

Bill Dearborn

The tires will have better grip in warmer weather but you have to change the way you are dropping the throttle if you want to get good acceleration. The engine has a tremendous amount of low rpm torque and when slam the throttle wide open you apply that torque now and break the tires loose. This will happen with almost any tire even in warm weather. Instead of dropping the hammer on the throttle roll onto it aggressively so you aren't shocking the tire /pavement interface with all that torque. You won't spin the tires at all or as hard and you will accelerate faster since you aren't standing still spinning your tires. Unlike tractor pulls or swamp buggy races spinning the tires faster slows you down.

I can drive away from just about anything on the street using third gear from 35 to 40 mph and never spin the tire when going to WOT. Even on cold pavement. The car isn't too powerful. You have to learn how to manage the power to the available grip and when you do it is a blast to drive.

Bill

3 Z06ZR1

I'm ready to test drive an AUDI R3 new for 2018. 3.5 0-60 11.9 117mph 4 wheel drive 3350 pounds. Keeping the 2 Z06's just need a
cold weather car. Selling my 2016 TRD Tacoma!

Big Lebowski

Warmer temps make a huge difference. If you’re looking for an alternate, check out the Grand Sport. Just a thought.

Cercone

3 Z06ZR1

Could but I'm liking the Audi females seem like them a lot too and that is ok with me. I have 3 female friends for everyone male friend Still have 3 Trucks for now but my 2016 Tacoma is going with the Audi replacing it.

Arctic Blastoff

If you hammer the throttle alot like I do and dont put a ton of miles on than you could do 18 inch Hoosier’s,I hammer it 100% throttle in 1st gear in the 50’s and have never had an issue with traction and tires are alot cheaper.

mallett435

Porsche GT4. MT and mid engine with fantastic handling.

cheapthrills

I haven't ever broke the rears loose in 3rd on dry pavement but I'm in FL so cold is rarely an issue.

Just read a review of the new BMW M5, not my cup of tea but rather impressive for a sedan, no manual however.

dajayc

Thanks for all the replies guys! Gotta love this forum. It is tough because I absolutely love the way the car looks, feels, and everything else about it (I was never a Corvette guy prior to the C7). Obviously anything else that compares is nearly double the cost. I look at the E63 and just dont get 'excited' looking at it the way I do the Z. Maybe it is just because we are in the thick of the crap season in Seattle with it always being [relatively] cold and somewhat wet.
When I was swapping the cup tires out, Costco didnt even carry the rear sizes nor could they find them. At discount tire they didnt have the Aplines at the time so I went with the super sports but being summer only tires they obviously are not performing the way they ought to with it being chilly.

Like Bill mentioned, I am sure a significant part of it is my lack of driving skill

A trip to the driving school is in the works for the spring time though. I have never tracked a car--I have never had a car worthy of tracking! Ron Fellows should be a great time

Thanks again all!

Basil2000

Warning about the driving school. I did the spring mountain school and now I am obsessed with driving on the track. All other aspects of my life now suffer.

HorsePowerObsessed

I'm in PA and when I bought the car in September I was blown away at how well the MPSS griped and put the power down. I was pleasantly surprised with this coming from my Camaro ZL1 that would spin no matter what. With that being said, yes, warmer temps make all the difference in the world. Honestly, I wouldn't even consider driving this car in temps under 50's for that simple fact.

ByRiver

How about using the 1-4 Shift CAGS method? Shift from 1st to 4th, and bypass 3rd gear. I tried doing that for a week to see if I got better gas mileage. It actually worked! Once I got used to it I kind of liked it. You have more than enough torque to outrun cars at the light, but not enough to spin up the tires.

fpfaeth

Cayman S without question. Or a used 911. Cannot go wrong.