1989 runs great then stalls and runs bad
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1989 runs great then stalls and runs bad
The car is a stock 89 with 63,000 miles. Manual. I purchased it with 58,000.
Usually starts and runs very well with good idle quality. I'll drive it a mile or many miles and it will run fine, then it will randomly be hard to start, not idle, won't accelerate under throttle/load, cough, sputter, and not be happy at all. I'll let it sit for minute or more and then it usually is back to normal.
No codes stored in ECU. The service light comes on and off as the engine speed rises and falls as I feather the throttle trying to keep it running. The service light is off otherwise.
New MAF (not rebuilt). New O2 sensor. Appears to be original distributor cap. Plugs are unknown. Plug wires look to be in good shape and are seated.
Fuel pressure steady at about 44 PSI when on and will hold that pressure for quite a while after turning the engine off. Fuel filter is unknown.
Cats are empty.
OK, what am I missing? Temp sensor? Throttle position sensor?
Usually starts and runs very well with good idle quality. I'll drive it a mile or many miles and it will run fine, then it will randomly be hard to start, not idle, won't accelerate under throttle/load, cough, sputter, and not be happy at all. I'll let it sit for minute or more and then it usually is back to normal.
No codes stored in ECU. The service light comes on and off as the engine speed rises and falls as I feather the throttle trying to keep it running. The service light is off otherwise.
New MAF (not rebuilt). New O2 sensor. Appears to be original distributor cap. Plugs are unknown. Plug wires look to be in good shape and are seated.
Fuel pressure steady at about 44 PSI when on and will hold that pressure for quite a while after turning the engine off. Fuel filter is unknown.
Cats are empty.
OK, what am I missing? Temp sensor? Throttle position sensor?
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If the SES light is coming on with the engine running, there is a code there.
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Dang it -- I was just cleaning up and preparing the car for a road trip out to the Texas Hill Country, but I suppose I should take something else. AAA takes forever in the middle of nowhere.
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For myself I tend to go to Napa because its around the corner. My preference is always whoever has the parts in stock locally. I would go out of my way to buy an actual ac delco fuel pump though. Beyond that, whoever has what you need in stock is where I would go.
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The car is a stock 89 with 63,000 miles. Manual. I purchased it with 58,000.
Usually starts and runs very well with good idle quality. I'll drive it a mile or many miles and it will run fine, then it will randomly be hard to start, not idle, won't accelerate under throttle/load, cough, sputter, and not be happy at all. I'll let it sit for minute or more and then it usually is back to normal.
No codes stored in ECU. The service light comes on and off as the engine speed rises and falls as I feather the throttle trying to keep it running. The service light is off otherwise.
New MAF (not rebuilt). New O2 sensor. Appears to be original distributor cap. Plugs are unknown. Plug wires look to be in good shape and are seated.
Fuel pressure steady at about 44 PSI when on and will hold that pressure for quite a while after turning the engine off. Fuel filter is unknown.
Cats are empty.
OK, what am I missing? Temp sensor? Throttle position sensor?
Usually starts and runs very well with good idle quality. I'll drive it a mile or many miles and it will run fine, then it will randomly be hard to start, not idle, won't accelerate under throttle/load, cough, sputter, and not be happy at all. I'll let it sit for minute or more and then it usually is back to normal.
No codes stored in ECU. The service light comes on and off as the engine speed rises and falls as I feather the throttle trying to keep it running. The service light is off otherwise.
New MAF (not rebuilt). New O2 sensor. Appears to be original distributor cap. Plugs are unknown. Plug wires look to be in good shape and are seated.
Fuel pressure steady at about 44 PSI when on and will hold that pressure for quite a while after turning the engine off. Fuel filter is unknown.
Cats are empty.
OK, what am I missing? Temp sensor? Throttle position sensor?
A bad distributor cap and rotor will cause bad running and intermittent stuff ... if it's original I'd replace that.
You can have a perforated fuel pressure regulator and still have good fuel pressure ... pull the vacuum line off and check for gas in there ... if there is it's bad. Good luck
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A bad distributor cap and rotor will cause bad running and intermittent stuff ... if it's original I'd replace that.
You can have a perforated fuel pressure regulator and still have good fuel pressure ... pull the vacuum line off and check for gas in there ... if there is it's bad. Good luck
You can have a perforated fuel pressure regulator and still have good fuel pressure ... pull the vacuum line off and check for gas in there ... if there is it's bad. Good luck
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OK will do. Its good to eliminate it as a problem and I also like the idea of a new one to establish a baseline for my ownership anyway. I am the third owner after the second bought the car off an initial lease. He had it since 1991. Nice guy but I wouldnt call him a car nut like most of us here. He didnt know there are switches on the doors to open the hatch for example. He thought the breadbox was an air bag, etc. I think he liked owning his vette but he didnt turn his own wrenches.
Have an AC Delco fuel pump and sender unit on its way. I'll R/R and check FPR and report back.
Good stuff!
Have an AC Delco fuel pump and sender unit on its way. I'll R/R and check FPR and report back.
Good stuff!
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OK, feller Vetters...new cap, rotor, and wires (MSD red...looks great), and new plugs. The number 2 plug was an absolute X8@#!#$%*& and was original to the car! The previous mechanic or owner just simply did not bother changing it. I see why.
New fuel pump and sending unit. Fresh Red Line in the transmission and rear end.
The car runs like new! I am impressed. The whole character of the engine has changed and so has my opinion of the L98. I have always felt it sounded rough and unpolished.
So now I am on to the suspension.
New fuel pump and sending unit. Fresh Red Line in the transmission and rear end.
The car runs like new! I am impressed. The whole character of the engine has changed and so has my opinion of the L98. I have always felt it sounded rough and unpolished.
So now I am on to the suspension.