[C2] Short treatise on repro parts
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Short treatise on repro parts
So - my 63 fuel gauge finally went south (I describe it as bouncing around like Dolly Parton in a Zoomba class) -- see video...
So, A new sending unit helped some but still excessive 'bounce' so I send out the original gauge and, based on some recommendations here, order a repro and install it (yes, you can do it with the cluster still in the car) temporarily while the original is being worked on. Well, its just unacceptably shiny, the font is off a bit and bugs me every time I look at it (I know I'm ****). See first picture; repro on the left of course.
So then I hear back from the guy with my original gauge that it was fixed before at some point and messed up for good - not worth restoring.
In talking to him about the repro gauge, he said I ordered the wrong repro gauge (not the 'good' one) - soooo....I order the 'right' repro from another vendor.
It comes in an AC/Delco box and I'm thinking - super....this has GOT to be a nice repro. Well its JUST as shiny and when mounted in the dash its actually crooked. I mean glaringly crooked. The second picture is my 'bum' original beside the repro (on the right) with them lined up just as they'd be mounted in the dash - yeah, crooked. The clockwise tilt actually looks worse in the dash and there is no mounting adjustment.
So I put the first repro back in the dash and send the AC/Delco POS back to the vendor. I guess the lesson is that just seeing a brand name doesn't make something better, and secondly, the fuel gauge can be replaced - without removing the cluster - in about 20 minutes..
Guess I'm on the prowl for an NOS gauge now, but those are in the $200 range and up. I'm in no hurry so I'll look for a bargain.
So, A new sending unit helped some but still excessive 'bounce' so I send out the original gauge and, based on some recommendations here, order a repro and install it (yes, you can do it with the cluster still in the car) temporarily while the original is being worked on. Well, its just unacceptably shiny, the font is off a bit and bugs me every time I look at it (I know I'm ****). See first picture; repro on the left of course.
So then I hear back from the guy with my original gauge that it was fixed before at some point and messed up for good - not worth restoring.
In talking to him about the repro gauge, he said I ordered the wrong repro gauge (not the 'good' one) - soooo....I order the 'right' repro from another vendor.
It comes in an AC/Delco box and I'm thinking - super....this has GOT to be a nice repro. Well its JUST as shiny and when mounted in the dash its actually crooked. I mean glaringly crooked. The second picture is my 'bum' original beside the repro (on the right) with them lined up just as they'd be mounted in the dash - yeah, crooked. The clockwise tilt actually looks worse in the dash and there is no mounting adjustment.
So I put the first repro back in the dash and send the AC/Delco POS back to the vendor. I guess the lesson is that just seeing a brand name doesn't make something better, and secondly, the fuel gauge can be replaced - without removing the cluster - in about 20 minutes..
Guess I'm on the prowl for an NOS gauge now, but those are in the $200 range and up. I'm in no hurry so I'll look for a bargain.
Last edited by Frankie the Fink; 03-21-2018 at 08:27 AM.
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So, it appears to me your expert rebuilder could take the original needle and face and mate it to the repro drive mechanism.
Second option is to do a wash of the repro to remove the shine. Maybe experiment with a very thin paint mixture in an air brush.
Second option is to do a wash of the repro to remove the shine. Maybe experiment with a very thin paint mixture in an air brush.
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Frankie the Fink (03-21-2018)
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Frank,
How about switching the original "dial" to the reproduction meter?? Call me before you do it, and I'll fix you up with how to get the needle right.
Sorry, R66 responded while I was typing.
How about switching the original "dial" to the reproduction meter?? Call me before you do it, and I'll fix you up with how to get the needle right.
Sorry, R66 responded while I was typing.
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May be a few weeks (a lot going on - getting house painted and wifey having knee surgery) but I'll take you up on that Mike
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Some are more trusting than me. Something may be NOS or it may not. And even an NOS part can be dicey after 60 years. I’m liking the face swap approach.
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So is your battery gauge a repro, because the lettering on it matches the repro fuel gauge, not your original one.
I don't know who you sent your original to, but sometimes the restorers have originals to sell. You might check with Joe Ray, D & M, Corvette Instrument, etc.
I'm pretty sure the repro gauge in the Delco box, is being made by K & B Corvette in Georgia. You might want to call them and see what they have to say. From my experience, they've been pretty good to deal with, and usually seem willing to listen when there's an issue with something they make.
I don't know who you sent your original to, but sometimes the restorers have originals to sell. You might check with Joe Ray, D & M, Corvette Instrument, etc.
I'm pretty sure the repro gauge in the Delco box, is being made by K & B Corvette in Georgia. You might want to call them and see what they have to say. From my experience, they've been pretty good to deal with, and usually seem willing to listen when there's an issue with something they make.
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So is your battery gauge a repro, because the lettering on it matches the repro fuel gauge, not your original one.
I don't know who you sent your original to, but sometimes the restorers have originals to sell. You might check with Joe Ray, D & M, Corvette Instrument, etc.
I don't know who you sent your original to, but sometimes the restorers have originals to sell. You might check with Joe Ray, D & M, Corvette Instrument, etc.
I'm pretty sure the repro gauge in the Delco box, is being made by K & B Corvette in Georgia. You might want to call them and see what they have to say. From my experience, they've been pretty good to deal with, and usually seem willing to listen when there's an issue with something they make.
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I replaced my fuel gage years ago and while not as bad as that one, there was some difference in the silk screened dial line widths, etc. I try not to stare at it too much.
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Just a thought for future reference. I do a lot of scale modeling and often don't want shiny. Testors dull coat spray is pretty good if warm and shaken enough. Just a light misting. It would make the gauge match the other, even the needle. A drop of synthetic very thin oil at the needle pivot just in case it got in there would be a plan. The only question is compatibility with the existing paint. I always test on an edge or some where it won't show first.
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Original on top, repro on the bottom - the OTHER repro (now in the car) was fine in this regard
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You'd think that the manufacturer would have had the sense to use a flattening agent in the paint to match the oem non-glare finish. Satin/gloss paint on a gauge? Really?
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That's my thought too.
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I watched the video.....and there's no bouncing Dollys? ....you lied.
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Just bend the posts at an angle slightly off vertical and away from each other to increase the space for the connectors. Easy!
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Errr...yeah. I did get the connector on, but as the pic shows, you can't seat it all the way with that method as the base of the connectors are immovable. No biggee - just another thing that could have been easily done right the first time...