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Old 04-20-2018, 02:46 PM
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Default How much clearance do I need spoke to caliper?

Trying some ccw I have on the c6z. The rear spoke is just kissing the caliper. Would a 1/4" spacer be enough? These are 18x12 rears. I would get a little longer stud so I can get at least 8 turns.

1"4 would also let me clear the tub a little more, now it's maybe 1/8 to 1/4" clear on the tub (hard to measure it).

Fender looks to be ok. As is the control arms etc.



Also the tires are 335x30x18 so I may go to 345x30x18 (as far as the tub & fender.) But I don't want to spacer out more than needed because of the fender.


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Wilwood recommends a minimum of 0.080" between the caliper and wheel.
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Originally Posted by Rx7Rob
Wilwood recommends a minimum of 0.080" between the caliper and wheel.
Really? Eight hundreth's? Whoa, I would never have figured that close. So if I am right touching, I only need a tiny spacer, maybe 1/8 inch if they come that thin. Might not need the extended studs as I get about 9 turns stock.

Anyone have a source for thin spacers?

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Take a look at the note near the bottom of this page:

http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BrakeK...229_wcd-lg.jpg

Get some thin stock from McMaster and drill some holes!
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I was going to say an 1/8" spacer should do it.
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I have a pair you can have
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Because a wheel shouldn't be deforming and caliper/wheel when bolted up are static; .00000000000000000001" would even be enough. I've seen people grind calipers to fit wheels and only take away just enough to allow wheel to spin.
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Originally Posted by IansInGarage
Because a wheel shouldn't be deforming and caliper/wheel when bolted up are static; .00000000000000000001" would even be enough. I've seen people grind calipers to fit wheels and only take away just enough to allow wheel to spin.
I wouldn't agree the relationship is static. As the bearings wear the wheel will deflect. 3mm was the thinnest spacers I could find. I got mine from Motosport Tech, 3mm hub centric, when I installed my AP Racing calipers. I had approximately 3mm clearance and added the spacer just to be sure I didn't nick the calipers. May not have been necessary but it makes me feel better.

http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel...ers_pop_car_d1

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I had this same issue a while back.
I spoke with AP and a Brembo rep. Each recommened a minimum 2mm clearance with a good forged wheel.
I have been running a 3mm spacers without issue.
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Originally Posted by Tomswheels
I have a pair you can have
Cool see you tomorrow, probably.

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Originally Posted by IansInGarage
Because a wheel shouldn't be deforming and caliper/wheel when bolted up are static; .00000000000000000001" would even be enough. I've seen people grind calipers to fit wheels and only take away just enough to allow wheel to spin.
Yikes.

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Originally Posted by IansInGarage
Because a wheel shouldn't be deforming and caliper/wheel when bolted up are static; .00000000000000000001" would even be enough. I've seen people grind calipers to fit wheels and only take away just enough to allow wheel to spin.
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I’ll agree being on safe side is wise, always. And good points that it’s not exactly static. But sounds like y’all are blowing out wheel bearings, they do not have the play that is being suggested. Obviously my .0000000000001 was a wild exaggeration. I’ll be more careful in wording.
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Originally Posted by IansInGarage
I’ll agree being on safe side is wise, always. And good points that it’s not exactly static. But sounds like y’all are blowing out wheel bearings, they do not have the play that is being suggested. Obviously my .0000000000001 was a wild exaggeration. I’ll be more careful in wording.
I’d be willing to say that at the end of its life cycle there could be as much as .125” play in a hub.... Although I think you might see evidence of “ self clearancing” before it got to that.
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Originally Posted by IansInGarage
I’ll agree being on safe side is wise, always. And good points that it’s not exactly static. But sounds like y’all are blowing out wheel bearings, they do not have the play that is being suggested. Obviously my .0000000000001 was a wild exaggeration. I’ll be more careful in wording.
I got your point, I often exaggerate to make a point & assume the other guy realizes it's an exaggeration.

But ya never know.


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Wheels flex too.... there absolutely needs to be a gap to allow for movement of the wheel. A few mm sounds good unless there is excessive play in the hubs.
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I've had some down at about .065 and they held up. More comfortable at .100"
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I would say that it depends on how FLEXIBLE your wheel is! I run Stoptech BBK (front and rear) and run a (soft) matchBOOK of space between caliper and wheel with no problems (on race tires).
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Originally Posted by Deputy_Dangle
I had this same issue a while back.
I spoke with AP and a Brembo rep. Each recommened a minimum 2mm clearance with a good forged wheel.
I have been running a 3mm spacers without issue.
2mm is .078 which is a shade smaller than the .080 recommended by Wilwood.

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Originally Posted by froggy47
Really? Eight hundreth's? Whoa, I would never have figured that close. So if I am right touching, I only need a tiny spacer, maybe 1/8 inch if they come that thin. Might not need the extended studs as I get about 9 turns stock.

Anyone have a source for thin spacers?

You can run up to a .3 inch spacer if you use extended length lug nuts. They go through the opening of the wheel and maintain the proper thread count to hold the wheel on. I used them on my C6Z and on my C7Z.





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