Finally, LED headlights without cutting anything
05-03-2018, 02:33 PM
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Finally, LED headlights without cutting anything
These look promising.
Previous LED headlights i looked at looked either Too Weird, or required hacking up the back of the light housing for the heat sink to fit through.
These look mo bettah..
https://vintagecarleds.com/?make=&mo...ion=vpf-search
Doug
Previous LED headlights i looked at looked either Too Weird, or required hacking up the back of the light housing for the heat sink to fit through.
These look mo bettah..
https://vintagecarleds.com/?make=&mo...ion=vpf-search
Doug
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05-03-2018, 02:50 PM
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These look promising.
Previous LED headlights i looked at looked either Too Weird, or required hacking up the back of the light housing for the heat sink to fit through.
These look mo bettah..
https://vintagecarleds.com/?make=&mo...ion=vpf-search
Doug
Previous LED headlights i looked at looked either Too Weird, or required hacking up the back of the light housing for the heat sink to fit through.
These look mo bettah..
https://vintagecarleds.com/?make=&mo...ion=vpf-search
Doug
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05-03-2018, 03:00 PM
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2 thoughts...
a lot of these aftermarket headlights are criticized because the beams at poorly focused and blinding to oncoming traffic
and; seeing as they say the bulbs are both hi and lo, would you use 4?
3rd thought... I see a European 'light' and a non, which one?
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05-03-2018, 03:43 PM
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I bought the VC4000 with the improved beam pattern and non-moving fan cooling just now; we'll see how they do...got the standard lenses....not the German blingy ones...
05-03-2018, 04:10 PM
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I called them. the vc4000 is too deep. They recommend the VCm35, which is 6mm longer than the stock bulb.
The VC3500 is the next shortest, at 15mm longer than stock.
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05-03-2018, 04:13 PM
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The cost of these, compared to Marchal, Cibie, and Hella does not give you cost effective lighting in my opinion. I installed the 5 3/4 w/55w halegon bulb lights in my '67 in the late '70's. NO modification was necessary for installation. The highbeams are sealed beam halegon. I have never had too replace an element to this day. There is a well defined line of light to the ground so as to not blind oncoming drivers. I also upgraded my wiring and have 5x7 Marchal driving lights under the bumpers. I use these all the time, day or night. Especially daytime as a defensive means. The above headlights are in the $47.00 ea. range, 55w bulbs about $7-$8.00 ea. 
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05-03-2018, 04:47 PM
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Looks like there are less lumens, but that lighting talk is greek to me. I'm saying that an LED will be much whiter and brighter than a halogen bulb. I did some research
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05-03-2018, 04:55 PM
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Bill, the difference, as they explained is 6mm (less than 1/4"). My guess is that they would fit any of the buckets, C1 or C2.
Looks like there are less lumens, but that lighting talk is greek to me. I'm saying that an LED will be much whiter and brighter than a halogen bulb. The "beam" or reflection has everything to do with the housing reflection. The "can" is what aims the light. If the lights are blinding people, then they are not aimed correctly. The bulbs don't have anything to do with it.
Looks like there are less lumens, but that lighting talk is greek to me. I'm saying that an LED will be much whiter and brighter than a halogen bulb. The "beam" or reflection has everything to do with the housing reflection. The "can" is what aims the light. If the lights are blinding people, then they are not aimed correctly. The bulbs don't have anything to do with it.
you're correct, their search engine shows a VCm35 for a 62
I THINK the front lens and the bulb have more to do with the focus than the can (or reflector). if you notice, modern headlights have a very definite horizontal 'line' projected, at least on low beam. headlights are normally aimed 4* down and 4* right.
as I asked Doug, the lights appear to have both low & high beam in the same assembly, if so would you replace all 4?
Bill
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05-03-2018, 04:56 PM
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Just called and you are right - the order is now swapped to their new VCm35.....I was hoping to avoid having the fan but it looks like that's not in the cards. $10 cheaper at least...
I'll try to do some kind of non-scientific comparison of these vs my halogens when they get here (and if they fit!)...
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05-03-2018, 05:12 PM
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The cost of these, compared to Marchal, Cibie, and Hella does not give you cost effective lighting in my opinion. I installed the 5 3/4 w/55w halegon bulb lights in my '67 in the late '70's. NO modification was necessary for installation. The highbeams are sealed beam halegon. I have never had too replace an element to this day. There is a well defined line of light to the ground so as to not blind oncoming drivers. I also upgraded my wiring and have 5x7 Marchal driving lights under the bumpers. I use these all the time, day or night. Especially daytime as a defensive means. The above headlights are in the $47.00 ea. range, 55w bulbs about $7-$8.00 ea. Dennis
Dennis"Cost effective" and Corvettes; an oxymoron if ever I heard one....
I'm trying to think of what I've done on any hobby I've had that was 'cost effective'...
This may take a while..
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05-03-2018, 05:26 PM
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05-03-2018, 05:48 PM
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Keep me posted.
I would be curious what the actual measurements are from the headlight mounting flange to the rearmost projection of the new bulb/housing assy compared to a normal sealed beam side by side..
I like LEDS because they generate no heat and use extremely few watts. Halogens throw off a lot of heat. You could probably leave the LEDs on all night and the battery wouldn't notice much.
Doug
$&@-/#% !!!
Just called and you are right - the order is now swapped to their new VCm35.....I was hoping to avoid having the fan but it looks like that's not in the cards. $10 cheaper at least...
I'll try to do some kind of non-scientific comparison of these vs my halogens when they get here (and if they fit!)...
I would be curious what the actual measurements are from the headlight mounting flange to the rearmost projection of the new bulb/housing assy compared to a normal sealed beam side by side..
I like LEDS because they generate no heat and use extremely few watts. Halogens throw off a lot of heat. You could probably leave the LEDs on all night and the battery wouldn't notice much.
Doug
$&@-/#% !!!
Just called and you are right - the order is now swapped to their new VCm35.....I was hoping to avoid having the fan but it looks like that's not in the cards. $10 cheaper at least...
I'll try to do some kind of non-scientific comparison of these vs my halogens when they get here (and if they fit!)...
05-03-2018, 06:02 PM
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Well -- these have an internal ball bearing fan so they must generate some heat....
05-03-2018, 06:08 PM
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Normal modern sealed beam headlights, seem to be around 700 lumens low beam, maybe 1000 lumens on high. Dunno what original T3 bulbs put out.
Halogens seem to be 1100 lumens on high.
The LED bulbs, I saw 2800 lumens someplace on that site for the vcm35. I am not sure if that is HB, or HB and low beam combined on the one light.
Doug
Halogens seem to be 1100 lumens on high.
The LED bulbs, I saw 2800 lumens someplace on that site for the vcm35. I am not sure if that is HB, or HB and low beam combined on the one light.
Doug
05-03-2018, 07:14 PM
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05-03-2018, 07:41 PM
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Yup -- I get it...
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