Aftermarket Carburetor on Stock Intake
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Aftermarket Carburetor on Stock Intake
Is there a good aftermarket carb that will fit with the stock intake and air cleaner on a '79 L-82 4 speed? My car runs great with the quadrajet but sometimes it floods on hot starts and diesels after turning off. The timing is set at 36 degrees at maximum advance and the idle is set at 900 rpm's. I would like to get a new carb but I don't want to change the intake.
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Run-on after shutdown is not a carb issue - it's caused by excessive throttle blade opening at engine shutdown (excessively high rpm). Flooding at hot start is also not likely a carb problem - it's a heat soak problem that can be corrected with a reflective heat shield. Replacing the High Performance 800 CFM L82 Q-Jet is not likely to fix any problems other than provide you with a significant decrease in overall performance.
...But if you do decide to get rid of that Q-Jet, please send it to me - I have people standing in lines waiting for a carb like that..!
Lars
...But if you do decide to get rid of that Q-Jet, please send it to me - I have people standing in lines waiting for a carb like that..!
Lars
Last edited by lars; 05-19-2018 at 09:07 PM.
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Run-on after shutdown is not a carb issue - it's caused by excessive throttle blade opening at engine shutdown (excessively high rpm). Flooding at hot start is also not likely a carb problem - it's a heat soak problem that can be corrected with a reflective heat shield.
Lars
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Run-on after shutdown is not a carb issue - it's caused by excessive throttle blade opening at engine shutdown (excessively high rpm). Flooding at hot start is also not likely a carb problem - it's a heat soak problem that can be corrected with a reflective heat shield. Replacing the High Performance 800 CFM L82 Q-Jet is not likely to fix any problems other than provide you with a significant decrease in overall performance.
...But if you do decide to get rid of that Q-Jet, please send it to me - I have people standing in lines waiting for a carb like that..!
Lars
...But if you do decide to get rid of that Q-Jet, please send it to me - I have people standing in lines waiting for a carb like that..!
Lars
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Your problem may be simple - too much timing and idle too high. Unless you're running a pretty radical cam, turn the idle down to 700/750. That may fix your problem. If it persists, you can also try turning your timing back a degree or two, then readjust idle. It's most likely the idle sitting too high and the motor doesn't want to shut down. 900 with a 4-speed in neutral is quite high.
I'm speaking here to the run-on problem, not flooding. Yes, you should run the heat shield on the intake.
I'm speaking here to the run-on problem, not flooding. Yes, you should run the heat shield on the intake.
Last edited by JoeMinnesota; 05-19-2018 at 11:08 PM.
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Your problem may be simple - too much timing and idle too high. Unless you're running a pretty radical cam, turn the idle down to 700/750. That may fix your problem. If it persists, you can also try turning your timing back a degree or two, then readjust idle. It's most likely the idle sitting too high and the motor doesn't want to shut down. 900 with a 4-speed in neutral is quite high.
I'm speaking here to the run-on problem, not flooding. Yes, you should run the heat shield on the intake.
I'm speaking here to the run-on problem, not flooding. Yes, you should run the heat shield on the intake.
Last edited by L-82 4Speed; 05-20-2018 at 06:40 AM.
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Melting Slicks
I agree about continuous use of the qjet but to answer your question. Forum member JB78L-82 is using a Holley 4175 with original intake and air cleaner on his 78L82. If I needed to swap this is what I would buy also. My 78 L82 4spd, also calls for 900rpm idle.
https://www.holley.com/blog/post/4165_4175_carburetors/
https://www.holley.com/blog/post/4165_4175_carburetors/
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There should be a idle solenoid that would be set for 900 rpm. The base idle screw on carb would be at maybe 500.. When the key is in run the solenoid extends to hold throttle open for idle. When key is turned to off the solenoid retracts and throttle closes slightly to prevent " run on".
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I agree about continuous use of the qjet but to answer your question. Forum member JB78L-82 is using a Holley 4175 with original intake and air cleaner on his 78L82. If I needed to swap this is what I would buy also. My 78 L82 4spd, also calls for 900rpm idle.
https://www.holley.com/blog/post/4165_4175_carburetors/
https://www.holley.com/blog/post/4165_4175_carburetors/
with minimal effort outside of going up 5 jet sizes after the rebuild from a 63 main jet to a 68...Probs still needs a couple size more jet with the 1 7/8 LTH on the engine now to breath.
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There should be a idle solenoid that would be set for 900 rpm. The base idle screw on carb would be at maybe 500.. When the key is in run the solenoid extends to hold throttle open for idle. When key is turned to off the solenoid retracts and throttle closes slightly to prevent " run on".
They look the same but have different functions. Crazy or not?
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There should be a idle solenoid that would be set for 900 rpm. The base idle screw on carb would be at maybe 500.. When the key is in run the solenoid extends to hold throttle open for idle. When key is turned to off the solenoid retracts and throttle closes slightly to prevent " run on".
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Lars already popped in here but I am going to go a step further and suggest checking your float.......condition and setting. Can't hurt and it is free if you break the gasket free without damaging.
Yes....dieseling is caused by throttle plates too far open.
Hot start can be heat also.......try the aforementioned heat shield or a thin phenolic carb base gasket.......many stock Q-jet gaskets are extra thick if you do your research.
Jebby
Yes....dieseling is caused by throttle plates too far open.
Hot start can be heat also.......try the aforementioned heat shield or a thin phenolic carb base gasket.......many stock Q-jet gaskets are extra thick if you do your research.
Jebby
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This one is the factory kind...although it is discontinued......
https://paceperformance.com/i-625030...jet-carbs.html
This looks promising.....but you will need the thick base gaskets to go with it....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROCHESTER-Q...-/252484955745
Jebby
https://paceperformance.com/i-625030...jet-carbs.html
This looks promising.....but you will need the thick base gaskets to go with it....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROCHESTER-Q...-/252484955745
Jebby
#18
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Here's a possible quick fix. Are you already running high-octane gas? Mine is an L-48 4-speed, so it should run fine on 87. Except that it doesn't.
It ran hot (too lean?) and dieseled at shutdown. I switched to 93 octane and the problem went away.
It ran hot (too lean?) and dieseled at shutdown. I switched to 93 octane and the problem went away.
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I do use 93 octane but I just found a station nearby that has ethanol free so I'm going to try that since the boiling point is much higher. I'll fill up tomorrow and see how that works.