CV Joints instead of universals?
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CV Joints instead of universals?
Looking at the rear suspension of the 'vette I sometimes wonder whether it would have been possible to have mounted the rear swing arms with taper roller bearings the same way motorcycle swing arms are mounted? Then use CV joints instead of universals in the driveshafts to transmit the power. This would eliminate the camber change that is inbuilt into the standard setup?
Would this work? Not saying I would attempt such an adaption seeing at least it would be a body off project to enable the mountings be fitted to the chassis. I see the various multi link suspension systems that are on offer and they look cool but don't they add more weight?
Would this work? Not saying I would attempt such an adaption seeing at least it would be a body off project to enable the mountings be fitted to the chassis. I see the various multi link suspension systems that are on offer and they look cool but don't they add more weight?
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Looking at the rear suspension of the 'vette I sometimes wonder whether it would have been possible to have mounted the rear swing arms with taper roller bearings the same way motorcycle swing arms are mounted? Then use CV joints instead of universals in the driveshafts to transmit the power. This would eliminate the camber change that is inbuilt into the standard setup?
Would this work? Not saying I would attempt such an adaption seeing at least it would be a body off project to enable the mountings be fitted to the chassis. I see the various multi link suspension systems that are on offer and they look cool but don't they add more weight?
Would this work? Not saying I would attempt such an adaption seeing at least it would be a body off project to enable the mountings be fitted to the chassis. I see the various multi link suspension systems that are on offer and they look cool but don't they add more weight?
That's the first few problem areas I see.
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It's an interesting discussion, but the downside is that the car would only be tolerable in a straight line. In cornering the outside tire would go into positive camber angle, promoting oversteer.
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Completely different suspension designs that don't rely on the half shaft for locating the wheel. Can easily install an upper link (to do the locating work currently done by the halfshaft) and then use cvs, but doesn't solve the inherent toe geometry issues. It does allow you to tune them though, by relocating the inner (or outer) pivots of the strut rod and the additional upper link that was added - this is a project on my to-do list.
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Completely different suspension designs that don't rely on the half shaft for locating the wheel. Can easily install an upper link (to do the locating work currently done by the halfshaft) and then use cvs, but doesn't solve the inherent toe geometry issues. It does allow you to tune them though, by relocating the inner (or outer) pivots of the strut rod and the additional upper link that was added - this is a project on my to-do list.
I posted that more being ironic most of my other cars have had cv rear irs....
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There was a thread a while back, either here or in C3 Tech about this, I believe the project was actually finished successfully although some hoops were jumped through. Search here & C3 Tech & it will show up.
Update
Well there used to be, I saw hints where it had been boneyarded. Some people get pissy about different ideas.
See if TheSkunkWorks is still a member. IIRC he and another guy were in the middle of this & the other guy actually did it.
Update
Well there used to be, I saw hints where it had been boneyarded. Some people get pissy about different ideas.
See if TheSkunkWorks is still a member. IIRC he and another guy were in the middle of this & the other guy actually did it.
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There was a thread a while back, either here or in C3 Tech about this, I believe the project was actually finished successfully although some hoops were jumped through. Search here & C3 Tech & it will show up.
Update
Well there used to be, I saw hints where it had been boneyarded. Some people get pissy about different ideas.
See if TheSkunkWorks is still a member. IIRC he and another guy were in the middle of this & the other guy actually did it.
Update
Well there used to be, I saw hints where it had been boneyarded. Some people get pissy about different ideas.
See if TheSkunkWorks is still a member. IIRC he and another guy were in the middle of this & the other guy actually did it.
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