Duntov

There is currently a 70 “LT-1” on eBay and the ad is making lofty claims.

Pretty sure this is the car that I had known since 1986. It started life as a 350 hp, and one of the previous owners patterned the cloning after our original owner LT-1. The person bought a lot of parts at Chevy, and swap meets. It ran in NCCC in IB, then they went to drag race mode primarily and ran in IIB. The car sat and then he sold it in the early 90s. The car was then in IB trim and ran again in the Southwest Region. A few years later it was in an enclosed trailer due to mechanical problem at an event. During the tow home the speculation is a strap broke, load shifted, and pushed the truck and trailer across the interstate. The front corner of the trailer was hit destroying the front end on the car. It had a new front clip installed, and was repainted. The car was then autocrossed some more before the owner had other obligations in life get in the way.

You can see in the photos on the auction the stamping on the block isn’t right. It was a fast car last time I saw it run, and would be a fun toy. Just don’t plan on it being original, and the tach backs up that 350 HP number.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Chevro...946f%7Ciid%3A1

Al T

No kidding!

The13Bats

So "IF" a person bought a car like this being called a LT 1 then after they buy it figure out thats its not a real deal can they sue the seller for misrepresenting it?

joewill

if he paid ZR1 money for it maybe.. he would have to prove he unreasonably overpaid for it.
certainly not at its current bid price of around 19K. which is a decent price for a 70 convertible with several excuses.

Greg

Heavens to Murgatroid, that's the worst job of re-stamping I've ever seen!
A drunk monkey could have done better.
I agree, under $30K probably not a problem, but if it gets into tall money, someone's going to get hurt......one way or another.

Just re-checked the listing. I see it's being sold by a dealer. If it does get into law suit territory at a later date, you can bet any company called "Classic Car Garage" should/would have known better.

Duntov

They could have a beef with it being advertised as a real LT-1 and clearly it isn’t. Mostly wanted folks to know the history if they were interested in buying the car.

The cutouts in the rear deck were for the rollbar

maj75

That color isn’t Daytona Yellow either.

v2racing

It doesn't matter what the buyer pays for it, if they find for sure it is not an LT1 after buying it, there would definitely be grounds for a lawsuit. Misrepresenting something in a sale is fraud, period!

The car is obviously not an LT1. Just a casual glance through the photos shows that. That restamp is awful for sure.

Mike

Hemi John

Why would you even show a picture of that block stamping? Especially stamped that bad! It looks like a very nice car, but one of the reasons I hate looking at vettes on ebay listed by dealers....misrepresentation and I'm sure reserve is higher than it should be for a non-LT1 car! He has " rare collector car" in the title

The13Bats

If what you guys are saying is correct misrepresentation doesnt just happen low end like with my t10 hose job but high end with things where 100 plus times the $$$ is involved,

So the description says ZL1 LT1, its both?

I would have thought most people hunting cars like LT1'S
Know what to look at to tell if said example is a real deal or not and the casual c3 buyer wouldnt be looking at a car im guessing will have a reserve of close to 100k or more,

I like the irony of it parked outside a detail shop yet its very poorly detailed,

So if its not the real deal and from posts on here its not,
how will this play out?

av81

If it's that rare and valuable as they claim why not repaint it back to Daytona yellow and put the original block back in , or they know it's not what they are saying. It definitely is a sharp driver

Easy Mike

Plausible deniability.

leadfoot4

Did 1970 LT-1s actually have the HEI ignition?? Was it a "dealer installed option"?

joewill

lots of original engines are decked and restamped... some very badly and some to the perfection that not even the best of the judges can tell.

lots of replacement engines are decked and restamped.. some very badly and some to the perfection that not even the best of the judges can tell.

definition of an LT1 or ZR1? must it have the original engine, or have replacement engine even tho it came from the factory with the LT1 option list ( engine, TI, suspension, etc..)?

I am sure this guy is getting flooded with ebay messages regarding his claims. but a ZR1 for 20K?

just last week saw a 70 LT1 convertible unrestored with rust dimples on the front clip go for 60K+ at mecum...

The13Bats

Im into modding but i dont loose sight of the forrest for the trees and know LT1s are an item that most fans of want all factory stock and when i look at this one i cant help but feel like one of the noisy negativists as i like to call them and start picking out everything wrong with this car,

Then i start wondering if at this point and the current condition of the car wouldnt its track history help more than hurt?

3X2

The bid is about $500,000 low for a LT1/ZR1. Should tell you it is fake.