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Old 07-19-2018, 05:01 PM
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I know this car very very well. I would strongly encourage those interested to contact both Bloomington and NCRS and pay the small free for judging records on this vehicle. At the very least, hire Bill Calarico to inspect the trim tag. The restoration is older, but still maintained very well.

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Do you have a link or picture. Is the trim tag fake? Stamp pad fake
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Do you have a link or picture. Is the trim tag fake? Stamp pad fake
Records of the car state the trim tag is not consistent with factory typical. And the car is not allowed to be judged in the NCRS
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Records of the car state the trim tag is not consistent with factory typical. And the car is not allowed to be judged in the NCRS

in other words it was deemed counterfit
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in other words it was deemed counterfit
Cypress Gardens and Bloomington Gold awards were in 1991. Prior to the knowledge we have available today about authenticity of trim tags. However, on the Bloomington sheets it describes the trim tag as not typical.
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Dang. I have a real L72 car but can’t find the original motor!!!
its funny (and appropriate) that any time a BB or FI car comes up for sale, it’s questioned and usually, a “tribute”, ahem, fake.
in 2002, a fellow named Scott Bonar posted on NCRS stating he had an L72 with my vin derivative. He was looking for the car which at the time, was sitting in a barn. It probably long blown up by now.
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Dang. I have a real L72 car but can’t find the original motor!!!
its funny (and appropriate) that any time a BB or FI car comes up for sale, it’s questioned and usually, a “tribute”, ahem, fake.
in 2002, a fellow named Scott Bonar posted on NCRS stating he had an L72 with my vin derivative. He was looking for the car which at the time, was sitting in a barn. It probably long blown up by now.
I purchased the above misrepresented car from the current seller in 2015. To make the story short, it was in his best interest to buy it back. Which he regretfully did. I know this car very well.
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I purchased the above misrepresented car from the current seller in 2015. To make the story short, it was in his best interest to buy it back. Which he regretfully did. I know this car very well.
Very respectable that the seller would do that.
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Very respectable that the seller would do that.

It is a felony in Texas to knowingly sell a vehicle with a counterfeit trim tag. The seller is not respectable
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Originally Posted by teneck83



It is a felony in Texas to knowingly sell a vehicle with a counterfeit trim tag. The seller is not respectable
Trim tag or VIN tag?
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Originally Posted by mrtexas
Trim tag or VIN tag?
Yes, I would find that difficult to believe as the V.I.N. tag is the recognized identifier for the car as recognized by Fed. law. They do not recognize trim tags nor do they even care if they are on the car or not.
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Originally Posted by 68hemi
Yes, I would find that difficult to believe as the V.I.N. tag is the recognized identifier for the car as recognized by Fed. law. They do not recognize trim tags nor do they even care if they are on the car or not.
I refer you to the Texas penal code.
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I refer you to the Texas penal code.
I am surprised you say a phony trim tag is illegal. I can understand a sale being fraudulent because the car was misrepresented, like being sold as a real big block and the trim tag was changed to fool buyers. Apparently you know something we don't know as you had a dispute about a Texas car sale and got your money back! What puzzles me is what cars besides Corvettes even have a trim tag? I'm not trying to be argumentative but am curious to know more.
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Originally Posted by mrtexas
I am surprised you say a phony trim tag is illegal. I can understand a sale being fraudulent because the car was misrepresented, like being sold as a real big block and the trim tag was changed to fool buyers. Apparently you know something we don't know as you had a dispute about a Texas car sale and got your money back! What puzzles me is what cars besides Corvettes even have a trim tag? I'm not trying to be argumentative but am curious to know more.
early mustangs have vin/trim code tags..
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Originally Posted by mrtexas
I am surprised you say a phony trim tag is illegal. I can understand a sale being fraudulent because the car was misrepresented, like being sold as a real big block and the trim tag was changed to fool buyers. Apparently you know something we don't know as you had a dispute about a Texas car sale and got your money back! What puzzles me is what cars besides Corvettes even have a trim tag? I'm not trying to be argumentative but am curious to know more.
This isn’t the place to go into every detail regarding Texas laws and consumer protection rights. As you can still see, the car is still being advertised as something it is not. My only goal is to encourage people of interest to complete their due diligence if they are looking at this car. My goal is to maintain integrity of a hobby we are all passionate about.
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Originally Posted by teneck83



It is a felony in Texas to knowingly sell a vehicle with a counterfeit trim tag. The seller is not respectable

I stand corrected. I had assumed that the seller sold it to you not knowing the car was fake because it was an old restoration. I assumed that he bought it unknowing. Once revealed, he bought it back.

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Originally Posted by mrtexas
I am surprised you say a phony trim tag is illegal. I can understand a sale being fraudulent because the car was misrepresented, like being sold as a real big block and the trim tag was changed to fool buyers. Apparently you know something we don't know as you had a dispute about a Texas car sale and got your money back! What puzzles me is what cars besides Corvettes even have a trim tag? I'm not trying to be argumentative but am curious to know more.


every car or truck made by Fisher Body for GM has a cowl tag just like a trim tag on a Vette. Mopars had a fender tag that list all the options. not sure on Fords
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every car or truck made by Fisher Body for GM has a cowl tag just like a trim tag on a Vette. Mopars had a fender tag that list all the options. not sure on Fords
So do Fords & I assume Mopar's also. My 1936 Cord phaeton had a trim tag.

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Oklahoma is the only state I'm aware of that has legislation specifically written to make fraudulent TRIM TAGS a felony; the law was written about eight years ago by one of our CRG (Camaro Research Group, www.camaros.org) members, who happens to be an attorney and has been involved in numerous collector car fraud cases. The Feds don't care about trim tags, nor do the other 49 states.


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