1986 stock TPI is hard to start, hot or cold
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1986 stock TPI is hard to start, hot or cold
So my '86 Vette since I've had it all of a week, has been hard to start, hot or cold, takes many cranks (3-5 cranks at 3 secs each) and often blows a puff of white/bluish smoke for a few secs upon startup. It runs strong out on the road and has enough torque to take off in 3rd... so it seems to have good compression and the oil is clean no coolant.. 103K original miles, runs like a sewing machine once running
The problem is also not getting worse or better... now I had an old 88 Camaro with a TBI 305 in it and I know all about the valve guides and seals... but the Camaro was never this hard to start I don't think.
This car has a stock L98, but the previous owner has done some sort of bypass of the fuel regulator with a rubber line and turned up the fuel pressure. Why would someone do this, and is this a problem? I feel like if the car was tuned from the factory, computer and all, to run on a regulated amount of fuel, then thats how it should stay.. am I wrong?
Is this a headgasket or a dirty Throttle Body?
The problem is also not getting worse or better... now I had an old 88 Camaro with a TBI 305 in it and I know all about the valve guides and seals... but the Camaro was never this hard to start I don't think.
This car has a stock L98, but the previous owner has done some sort of bypass of the fuel regulator with a rubber line and turned up the fuel pressure. Why would someone do this, and is this a problem? I feel like if the car was tuned from the factory, computer and all, to run on a regulated amount of fuel, then thats how it should stay.. am I wrong?
Is this a headgasket or a dirty Throttle Body?
Last edited by TheTunedPort; 07-19-2018 at 05:53 PM. Reason: to add in cars mileage
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This is the problem with modified cars.
In your situation, things sound totally screwed up and I would be putting it back to stock immediately, then worry about whatever else is wrong.
In your situation, things sound totally screwed up and I would be putting it back to stock immediately, then worry about whatever else is wrong.
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So my '86 Vette since I've had it all of a week, has been hard to start, hot or cold, takes many cranks (3-5 cranks at 3 secs each) and often blows a puff of white/bluish smoke for a few secs upon startup. It runs strong out on the road and has enough torque to take off in 3rd... so it seems to have good compression and the oil is clean no coolant.. 103K original miles, runs like a sewing machine once running
The problem is also not getting worse or better... now I had an old 88 Camaro with a TBI 305 in it and I know all about the valve guides and seals... but the Camaro was never this hard to start I don't think.
This car has a stock L98, but the previous owner has done some sort of bypass of the fuel regulator with a rubber line and turned up the fuel pressure. Why would someone do this, and is this a problem? I feel like if the car was tuned from the factory, computer and all, to run on a regulated amount of fuel, then thats how it should stay.. am I wrong?
Is this a headgasket or a dirty Throttle Body?
The problem is also not getting worse or better... now I had an old 88 Camaro with a TBI 305 in it and I know all about the valve guides and seals... but the Camaro was never this hard to start I don't think.
This car has a stock L98, but the previous owner has done some sort of bypass of the fuel regulator with a rubber line and turned up the fuel pressure. Why would someone do this, and is this a problem? I feel like if the car was tuned from the factory, computer and all, to run on a regulated amount of fuel, then thats how it should stay.. am I wrong?
Is this a headgasket or a dirty Throttle Body?
Maybe the cold start injector needs to be serviced? Injectors are the first thing people change when they are wanting more power but the last thing people think will get dirty.
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Thanks guys I was just about start diggin deeper but the car has since later revealed today that when you run it under about a half a tank, then it will not only be even harder to start, but it will also bog, skip, and miss at anything over 1/4 throttle.....filled it to the brim with fresh fuel and ran great again. So looks like Im gonna be changing the fuel filter this weekend, might drop and clean out the tank too. Car has sat for the better part of a year, and as for the puff of blue smoke.. yeah 36 year old valve seals lmao it is what it is. Thanks again im happy this is easy to fix and not serious. This would have been a tow bill and a $1500 shop fee for my old Jaguar XK8, dash lit up like an xmas tree and a burnt up fuel pump lol. Long live the CORVETTE!!!!!!!!
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Probably need to check the fuel pump assembly and see if the pulsator is FUBAR
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If it doesnt get fixed with a new fuel filter then Ima drop the tank, clean it out, idk I think that "sock filter" that fits over the pump in the tank is stopped up, plus its got probly a 15-20 year old filter with 60k miles on it dont help it any lol
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Don't bother with tank "dropping" and cleaning just yet...if it runs good under power, then the problem isn't likely fuel pump/sock/filter.
Can you confirm that your fuel pump runs/primes for ~2 second when your first turn the key on?
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do you have a FSM? if not, get one before anything! good luck....
Last edited by Joe C; 07-20-2018 at 03:20 AM.