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Old 07-19-2018, 06:05 PM
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A friend was looking at this and thought it would go pretty cheaply (like $12-$15K) as its not numbers matching and has a bunch of new parts so it can be a sometimes daily driver.

1969 Convertible

I have no idea of the value and would appreciate any members thoughts and inputs. Its not a car I would ever buy as I think the blue with blue is like a smurf mobile but would love to know
how much redoing stuff with newer parts affects the value because no numbers match.

Thanks all for your input.
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I don't love the blue interior either, but I think those are pretty easy to change. What's sad for all these resto-mods is that they almost always go for way less than the owner invested in the performance.

Also, it's an auto. They don't mention power steering or power brakes. I would guess 30k assuming everything works as it should, and the car is clean.
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Some may be turned off by the blue interior, but if it is as clean as it looks, the work done is documented, and its rust free, anything under 25K will be a bargain.
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Originally Posted by Stan Pietruska
A friend was looking at this and thought it would go pretty cheaply (like $12-$15K) as its not numbers matching and has a bunch of new parts so it can be a sometimes daily driver.

1969 Convertible

I have no idea of the value and would appreciate any members thoughts and inputs. Its not a car I would ever buy as I think the blue with blue is like a smurf mobile but would love to know
how much redoing stuff with newer parts affects the value because no numbers match.

Thanks all for your input.
It has $15k in paint and wheels - should go for double that
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:42 PM
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So if this was all original and numbers matching, what would it be worth, 50-60k?

Just trying to understand how much the restomod devalues it from an all original. Looks like it has a crate engine.

The wheels look like Cragar rims which are pretty basic and not expensive.
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Numbers-matching LT1 maybe. Numbers matching base motor motor with Rallye Wheels probably worth less than the LS7 version.
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Looks nice. Tough to comp it against a stock vehicle, as it's going to attract a different type of buyer. I guess factoring in what it might cost to build to someone's taste would provide a benchmark on top of a price for a decent C3 example.

Don't forget the buyer's premium, which might be in the 10% range.
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I like it, LS7 427 and AC!! Wonder which trans they used. Lots of questions but the ad sucks. I see 30K with the right person.

The engine alone is more then 15K
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Reminds me of when former baseball picher rob dibble spent $125k on a custom restomod of a 68 camaro. He had it listed for $89k for two years. He finally sold it for $29k. He got destroyed on that one.

You never get the money back on restomods.
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Originally Posted by Stan Pietruska
...I have no idea of the value and would appreciate any members thoughts and inputs...
Value may be a moot point since the car is to be auctioned next month. A potential buyer will have to want the car and the modifications made to it and out bid anyone else who might be interested in owning it.
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Originally Posted by Stan Pietruska
Just trying to understand how much the restomod devalues it from an all original. Looks like it has a crate engine.
Right now restomods are the in thing often selling for more then restored numbers cars. If you think you're going to get a bargain just because a car has been restomoded you're in for a surprise. YMMV
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I’ve always thought blue/blue convertibles were beautiful and popular. This is the first disparaging reference (“Smurfmobile”) I’ve actually read on that color combo. That said, if you/your friend hate it, you shouldn’t buy it. A paint job costs... a lot.

I don’t care for the modifications either, but 12-15 for a running, complete ‘69 roadster is simply not reasonable. That’s mediocre coupe money.

The debate about restomod vs original is another conversation entirely, but you seem to be missing the point. While it’s very possible a seller could lose a significant amount of his total build cost, the actual selling price is still often higher than a stock car, as some people who like restomods take advantage of a discount buy. But that doesn’t mean the car will sell for ridiculous numbers. 12-15 is not even legitimate. I guarantee the seller at the auction would walk away from a final bid in that range.
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Originally Posted by ddawson
I like it, LS7 427 and AC!! Wonder which trans they used. Lots of questions but the ad sucks. I see 30K with the right person.

The engine alone is more then 15K
I like it too....that's a 30K to 40K car.
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$12-15k??? Sorry you're not going to get close. That car will bring >$30k I suspect....


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The photos look to be digitally enhanced in regards to the blue color. They are just not right.

That said, its a really attractive car and it should sell for good money. I would not be at all amazed if it hit 30k, or even more. If it had a 4 speed I would want to jump on that.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
I’ve always thought blue/blue convertibles were beautiful and popular. This is the first disparaging reference (“Smurfmobile”) I’ve actually read on that color combo.
I think that's the best factory colour combination. My heart started beating faster when I saw the pictures of it.

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Having a gen IV LS7 adds a lot of value to that car. It's also slated for auction mid-day Saturday and that's where higher dollar cars sell. Wouldn't surprise me to see it go for $40k or more.

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Originally Posted by Reno Matthews
Reminds me of when former baseball picher rob dibble spent $125k on a custom restomod of a 68 camaro. He had it listed for $89k for two years. He finally sold it for $29k. He got destroyed on that one.

You never get the money back on restomods.
Fortunately thats not what the hobby is about

Never get it back on #s correct either unless the mechanicals are just painted and not properly rebuilt, all hardware plated etc.
A "rattlecan" resto...may or may not be profitable but to take an entire car apart, make it truly like new wont make a cent

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Sign me up for all you can find like that for $12-15. Your friend is completely out of touch with reality.
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Just to update you guys, he went to Harrisburg and he was knocked out at $30K. The closing bid was $57,000 he said and the seller's reserve was not met. When he went to "The Bid Goes On Dept" they
said the seller has a $100,000 reserve on the car as he evidently had all the upgrades done professionally. So you guys were right, my buddy was not in tune with reality on the car. I appreciate the education
I received from you guys as well and passed on the knowledge.
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