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'77. TH350 and stick shift frames different?

Old 07-20-2018, 11:05 PM
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Hello all.

I am working on a '77e that came with a l48/TH350. A year or 2 ago I picked up a great '76 frame from a member here who had to give up on his project. It is a stick shift frame. I installed the American Powertrain flanges to make the Crossmember removable.

Well today I layed the motor/trans in and the trans mount is a few inches BACK from where it needs to be for the TH350. I can find dimensions on the auto's just fine but can't seem to find them on the T10 4speed to see how much different.

My theory is the T10 puts the mount where it needs to be for a TH400 and all I have to do is get a TH400. My worry is that the stickshift cars put their mounts at a location that doesn't match up at all with autos.

So do TH400's and T10's swap with out moving the trans mount location?

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Old 07-20-2018, 11:37 PM
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interesting.....why not tap the frame and move it to where you need it to be?

I had a 77 and swapped the th350 for a 700r4 and used the bow tie over drive cross member, I don't see why you cant just move the cross member or the trans mount assuming you have welding capabilites
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
interesting.....why not tap the frame and move it to where you need it to be?

I had a 77 and swapped the th350 for a 700r4 and used the bow tie over drive cross member, I don't see why you cant just move the cross member or the trans mount assuming you have welding capabilites
The stickshift cross members are welded to the frame. Its all done and painted now I would rather not mess with it at this point. .
I have to get another TH350 anyways so going to a 400 is not that big of a deal.
I just want to make sure this is what is going on before I commit to the TH400 (or maybe 200r4).

(here is an older pic from when i cut in the American Powertrain flanges)

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Old 07-21-2018, 12:20 AM
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Don't you have to use the adapter plate for 4 speeds and 350's such as this pic shows?
http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/6...eSchematic.jpg
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Originally Posted by Rodnok1
Don't you have to use the adapter plate for 4 speeds and 350's such as this pic shows?
http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/6...eSchematic.jpg
Oh boy am I glad I made a post on this forum. I think this is the missing piece to my puzzle.
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The frames are the same except for the crossmember either is bolted or welded depending on the trans type. Location is identical.
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Originally Posted by ConnecticutJunkman
Oh boy am I glad I made a post on this forum. I think this is the missing piece to my puzzle.
Just fabricate a Bracket to suit the length you need ,I made one to fit from 10 mm plate ,easy done .
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Originally Posted by bazza77
Just fabricate a Bracket to suit the length you need ,I made one to fit from 10 mm plate ,easy done .
Ya thats the plan if I stick with the TH350. Now that I know what is wrong and what the bracket looks like this looks like an easy fix.
I just need to make up my mind on which way to go with the trans...

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You can purchase those brackets for 20 or so...
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700r4 cross member from bow tie over drive

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check this out

http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...php?ITEMID=675

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