C7 Z06 Discussion General Z06 Corvette Discussion, LT4 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: GEM Motorsports

So are the cooling bugs worked out of the 2019 Z06?

Old 08-16-2018, 05:37 AM
  #1  
TracksZ06
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
TracksZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2017
Location: Delaware
Posts: 64
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default So are the cooling bugs worked out of the 2019 Z06?

Hi everyone.

I have a 2017 Grand Sport that I might be trading in this weekend for a new 2019 Z06. Obviously the cooling issue and the limp mode issue are a concern. I don't plan to track it but I do enjoy opening it up to 120-140 when a safe opportunity presents itself. I don't want to trade in a perfectly good car for one that turns into a nightmare. I did a quick review of the forum and didn't see this topic (though I'm sure it's somewhere) but are the 2019 Z06's performing better than older year models?

Any help or information is greatly appreciated!

Thank you.
Old 08-16-2018, 05:59 AM
  #2  
rico750sxi
Drifting
 
rico750sxi's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2006
Location: Selkirk NY
Posts: 1,507
Received 181 Likes on 137 Posts

Default

You will not have any issues with overheating doing runs up to 140 mph on the street. Even on the track the issue was largely improved with the '17 updates.
The following users liked this post:
TracksZ06 (08-16-2018)
Old 08-16-2018, 06:20 AM
  #3  
Z0HS1CK
Race Director
 
Z0HS1CK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2012
Posts: 10,613
Received 3,187 Likes on 2,137 Posts

Default

The issue is really when at the track and that mostly applies to the auto.

on the street no z06 will or should I say should overheat. I have a '16 and I drive it even during the peak of summer, with the ac on and I drive it like an actual car, never even came close to overheating ever.
The following users liked this post:
TracksZ06 (08-16-2018)
Old 08-16-2018, 06:58 AM
  #4  
senseiturtle
Cruising
 
senseiturtle's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Unless there's something wrong with your individual car, then you will not experience overheating issues with typical street use of ANY model year c7z06. Of course, hill climbing runs with repetitive full throttle blasts are excluded. I used to get close to overheating my 370z on those same roads, so I'd say it's a substantial thermal load on -any- car.

Even if you go with a slightly older model (2015,2016), there are mods that can drastically improve cooling performance and make the car suitable for extended track use.
The following users liked this post:
TracksZ06 (08-16-2018)
Old 08-16-2018, 07:21 AM
  #5  
TracksZ06
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
TracksZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2017
Location: Delaware
Posts: 64
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Thanks to everyone for such quick responses. Now I can be excited and not worried. Thanks again everyone!
Old 08-16-2018, 07:23 AM
  #6  
ta70raiii
Burning Brakes
 
ta70raiii's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Centerville Ohio
Posts: 1,078
Received 308 Likes on 114 Posts
CI 6-7-8-9 Veteran

Default

Buy it and enjoy!
Old 08-16-2018, 08:05 AM
  #7  
Mr. Gizmo
Le Mans Master
 
Mr. Gizmo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 5,885
Received 641 Likes on 476 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TracksZ06
Thanks to everyone for such quick responses. Now I can be excited and not worried. Thanks again everyone!
there is no material change from 2017 to 2019. Starting 2017 and carried forward changes in the supercharger lid for better cooling over the rear cylinders. and the m7 for 2017 benefited from some additional cooling changes the a8 didn’t get. You’ll be fine on the street. The cars do run mighty hot but don’t over heat. They are prone performance wise to heat soak. You can tell this even on the street. The c7z’s have a horrendous big brother tune that zaps the power and the intercooler tank is prone to cavitate on all years which pulls a lot of power when it happens and is difficult to fill and get airpockets out of. A horrible design of a system so critical to performance on a supercharged car. The cars don’t really run that great above 5000 maybe to 5300 rpm. They peter out up high. Your wasting time holding the lunk of a motor to redline.

Down low the torque is very good especially when the car is first started at luke warm operating temps.

I feel Overall the car is more like a big 2 door heavy Cadillac (not really a bad thing) then a sports car.

With the grand sport you have all the doo dad look of a z06. You’d be better off throwing a magnuson 2300 supercharger and tune for 5k on your grandsport then trading for a z06. You’ll save a ton of money , save sales tax on the delta difference and save personal property tax and your grand sport would blow the doors off a stock blower z06.

A bigger supercharger is what the z06 needs and what a lot of z06 owners including me are planning to do because the tiny supercharger on the z06 really chokes these cars.

Last edited by Mr. Gizmo; 08-16-2018 at 08:30 AM.
Old 08-16-2018, 09:16 AM
  #8  
Clspht
Racer
 
Clspht's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
Received 156 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

OP. . Get the Z... Even bone stock its a blast to drive and you wont have heat issues on the street.... Not many "real" sports cars can even come close.....2 door Caddilac....Give me a break!
Old 08-16-2018, 11:07 AM
  #9  
Z0HS1CK
Race Director
 
Z0HS1CK's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2012
Posts: 10,613
Received 3,187 Likes on 2,137 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Clspht
OP. . Get the Z... Even bone stock its a blast to drive and you wont have heat issues on the street.... Not many "real" sports cars can even come close.....2 door Caddilac....Give me a break!
I thought about trading my z for a V3 ctsv to hold me off until the c8 comes around but that auto lol......I just cant. I mean auto I could but not the damn gm 8 speed lol
Old 08-16-2018, 11:34 AM
  #10  
NineVettes
Burning Brakes
 
NineVettes's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2018
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 799
Received 528 Likes on 275 Posts
Default

I just pulled the trigger on a '19 manual tranny Z06 2 LZ, Admiral Blue/Adrenalin Red interior. I believe the '19s also come with the latest MSRC programming from GM. I am thinking/hoping that between the much improved paint/bodywork for '19, improved cooling especially for manual trans car, and updated MSRC programming - most of the Z's early problems have been resolved. Getting it for 12% under MSRP. Hope I am right!
Old 08-16-2018, 02:19 PM
  #11  
dvilin
Team Owner
 
dvilin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 44,740
Received 7,920 Likes on 4,806 Posts

Default

I purchased a new 2019 M7 Z06 in March and there have been no heating issues at all. Even in 90 degree stop and go traffic and on very spirited runs. The car is exceptional in every way but it can be a beast and a bit loose with heavy acceleration.
Old 08-16-2018, 03:38 PM
  #12  
Bill Dearborn
Tech Contributor
 
Bill Dearborn's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 1999
Location: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Posts: 40,078
Received 8,917 Likes on 5,327 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TracksZ06
Hi everyone.

I have a 2017 Grand Sport that I might be trading in this weekend for a new 2019 Z06. Obviously the cooling issue and the limp mode issue are a concern. I don't plan to track it but I do enjoy opening it up to 120-140 when a safe opportunity presents itself. I don't want to trade in a perfectly good car for one that turns into a nightmare. I did a quick review of the forum and didn't see this topic (though I'm sure it's somewhere) but are the 2019 Z06's performing better than older year models?

Any help or information is greatly appreciated!

Thank you.
If you aren't taking the car to the track there has never been an issue. If you take the car to the track the only issue seems to be with the A8s. The overheating talk all started when Randy Pobst was driving a 2015 Z06 A8 at Road Atlanta during the initial press reviews and he over heated the Engine OIL after 4 extremely fast hot laps. That quickly ballooned into a huge internet myth that says they all over heat everywhere. The 17 through 19 M7 models have all of the cooling improvements that GM added. Secondary Radiator that helps cool the engine oil and modified S/C that improves charge cooling for the rear two cylinders in the engine. The A8s only get the S/C change. Buy a 15 or 16 M7 and add the GMPP Secondary Radiator and you have pretty much what came on the 17 through 19 models.

Bill
Old 08-16-2018, 03:46 PM
  #13  
desmophile
Racer
 
desmophile's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2017
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 312
Received 112 Likes on 85 Posts
Default

To overheat the Z06 (ours is 2017/A8) on the street, you would be either dancin' with the devil or in Death Valley/mid August/rush hour traffic.
On the track there are lots of variables.
Sort of like "how long do Sport Cup 2 tires last?
Per Richie Hearn (Indy car driver, now at Spring Mountain) "I can make them last all day or 15 minutes"
And you should go to Spring Mountain Corvette Owners Class!!!
The following users liked this post:
Pacembellum (09-18-2019)
Old 08-16-2018, 03:55 PM
  #14  
Warp Factor
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Warp Factor's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2005
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
Posts: 7,075
Received 1,816 Likes on 1,084 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
If you aren't taking the car to the track there has never been an issue. If you take the car to the track the only issue seems to be with the A8s. The overheating talk all started when Randy Pobst was driving a 2015 Z06 A8 at Road Atlanta during the initial press reviews and he over heated the Engine OIL after 4 extremely fast hot laps. That quickly ballooned into a huge internet myth that says they all over heat everywhere. The 17 through 19 M7 models have all of the cooling improvements that GM added. Secondary Radiator that helps cool the engine oil and modified S/C that improves charge cooling for the rear two cylinders in the engine. The A8s only get the S/C change. Buy a 15 or 16 M7 and add the GMPP Secondary Radiator and you have pretty much what came on the 17 through 19 models.

Bill
Yup. Overheating issues are largely myth, or something stemming from cars which weren't properly filled at the factory.
Old 08-16-2018, 09:14 PM
  #15  
TracksZ06
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
TracksZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2017
Location: Delaware
Posts: 64
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Sincerely...thank you to everyone that replied. All of you helped me make my decision and i can't wait. This is truly a unique and awesome community. I actually feel a little prouder being a Corvette owner today. Thanks again everyone!!

Last edited by TracksZ06; 08-16-2018 at 09:15 PM.

Get notified of new replies

To So are the cooling bugs worked out of the 2019 Z06?



Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: So are the cooling bugs worked out of the 2019 Z06?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:55 PM.