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Old 09-17-2018, 11:27 PM
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Does anyone know if GM is going to reproduce the ZR1 for the year 2020? Also, what is the last date GM will take orders for the 2019 ZR1? Thanks
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:04 PM
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No one knows for sure my guess it is a 2019 only car. There will be no more allocations from what I have been able to learn and I have heard March is the end of production but again I just don"t know for sure!
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No one knows for sure my guess it is a 2019 only car. There will be no more allocations from what I have been able to learn and I have heard March is the end of production but again I just don"t know for sure!
1 year car is what I am hoping for. Rumors both ways.
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As of 6 months ago, per a reliable source, the current ZR1 would be a 3 model year car. For a period of time, possibly 2-3 years, the C7 and C8(ME) would be built and sold for the same model years. A C8 ZR1 would come in the third model year of the C8.
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As of 6 months ago, per a reliable source, the current ZR1 would be a 3 model year car. For a period of time, possibly 2-3 years, the C7 and C8(ME) would be built and sold for the same model years. A C8 ZR1 would come in the third model year of the C8.
I hope they have a 2020 model because I can't find any allocations for the ZR1 for the 2019 model. Just sold my ZO6 and would like a ZR1. Some dealers can get you an allocation but they want $10,000 over MSRP.
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I don't think that it's going to be more than a 1 year car. I think the issues with the CF alone is enough to kill it alone and I think they want to have C7 go out with a bang. How wonderful would that be to have a 1 year run of the ZR1. Maybe a possibility they make an abbreviated run from Mar 2019 - Aug 2019..but not holding my breath. Many will argue that GM put too much R&D into the car to only have it run 1 year. But if you think about it...how much R&D actually went into it? It's still a C7 with a few upgrades! So not as much as many people think. I'm going with 1 year.

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Originally Posted by D'ZR1 Messiah
I don't think that it's going to be more than a 1 year car. I think the issues with the CF alone is enough to kill it alone and I think they want to have C7 go out with a bang. How wonderful would that be to have a 1 year run of the ZR1. Maybe a possibility they make an abbreviated run from Mar 2019 - Aug 2019..but not holding my breath. Many will argue that GM put too much R&D into the car to only have it run 1 year. But if you think about it...how much R&D actually went into it? It's still a C7 with a few upgrades! So not as much as many people think. I'm going with 1 year.
How much R&D? Well they developed and certified a new engine, created and tested new body panels and aerodynamics packages, completely re-engineered the cooling system to withstand the heat of the newly developed engine as well as raising the temperature thresholds. Then they had to go through the entire validation and testing program for the whole car, so maybe just a little R&D had to go into all of that.
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How much R&D? Well they developed and certified a new engine, created and tested new body panels and aerodynamics packages, completely re-engineered the cooling system to withstand the heat of the newly developed engine as well as raising the temperature thresholds. Then they had to go through the entire validation and testing program for the whole car, so maybe just a little R&D had to go into all of that.
Not near the R&D of a complete new car this is 80- 90 percent the same car. The new engine is a basically an LT4 with a larger blower. Most of the engine is the same as well! They redid the front end which has the only new body panels. The jury is still out on the heat improvements. I might have bought a ground up new car this one is the same inside. Being sold on improvements. The big improvement was the 105 hp and that comes to the Z06 pretty easy
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Lol, you're dreaming if you think GM will only be selling this car for 1 year. This car will be sold until the C8 Vette comes out.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Not near the R&D of a complete new car this is 80- 90 percent the same car. The new engine is a basically an LT4 with a larger blower. Most of the engine is the same as well! They redid the front end which has the only new body panels. The jury is still out on the heat improvements. I might have bought a ground up new car this one is the same inside. Being sold on improvements. The big improvement was the 105 hp and that comes to the Z06 pretty easy
The LT5 is not "basically an LT4 with a larger blower." It also has a completely different crankshaft, a different fuel injection system (DI and port), and a different throttle body. You also realize that redoing the front end is probably just a little less than half of the whole car's panels, right? It contains the front fenders, the hood, and the front bumper not to mention the wing development in conjunction with it all. In other words, this wasn't as cheap or insignificant as you are trying to imply.
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
The LT5 is not "basically an LT4 with a larger blower." It also has a completely different crankshaft, a different fuel injection system (DI and port), and a different throttle body. You also realize that redoing the front end is probably just a little less than half of the whole car's panels, right? It contains the front fenders, the hood, and the front bumper not to mention the wing development in conjunction with it all. In other words, this wasn't as cheap or insignificant as you are trying to imply.
Still nowhere near the R&D of a new car built from the ground up. And the engine is indeed a beefed up LT4 that was given the name of an LT5 (beefed up denotes adding some larger components and some additional features). Only time will tell as all of this is all pure conjecture...but I do not expect another C7 ZR1 to be produced.

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Originally Posted by propete
I hope they have a 2020 model because I can't find any allocations for the ZR1 for the 2019 model. Just sold my ZO6 and would like a ZR1. Some dealers can get you an allocation but they want $10,000 over MSRP.
I know where there is an open allocation that needs an order by 9/22/18 pm me if interested. There won't be a 2020 ZR1 from everything I can find out.

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Originally Posted by D'ZR1 Messiah
Still nowhere near the R&D of a new car built from the ground up. And the engine is indeed a beefed up LT4 that was given the name of an LT5 (beefed up denotes adding some larger components and some additional features). Only time will tell as all of this is all pure conjecture...but I do not expect another C7 ZR1 to be produced.
I'm not arguing that it is near the cost of developing a new car however, the costs were not insignificant and there is no way they are making money on it over 1 year of production.
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I'm not arguing that it is near the cost of developing a new car however, the costs were not insignificant and there is no way they are making money on it over 1 year of production.
Why not have a legendary 1 year run of the ZR1 that would put it in an exclusive class? Same with any manufacturer doing a 1 year run. Take the Demon for instance...that was a 1 year run that was a beefed up Hell Cat.
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We get it, you want your ZR1 to be special. But the ZR1 will continue to be produced until the c8 is ready to roll off the assembly line. Factory has been retooled to produce the c8 and the c7 is no longer in production. or maybe they will produce both at the same time? Not sure why you think they will kill off the top dog corvette so soon.
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We get it, you want your ZR1 to be special. But the ZR1 will continue to be produced until the c8 is ready to roll off the assembly line. Factory has been retooled to produce the c8 and the c7 is no longer in production. or maybe they will produce both at the same time? Not sure why you think they will kill off the top dog corvette so soon.
Truly I couldn't care less as I don't let cars define me as an individual. Unless you work for GM corporate office your guess is a good as anyone else's which is the fun of it...the speculation...wondering which way GM will go. Will it be a one year or will it continue on for a few more years. I know you can't tell my demeanor buy just typed words..but not trying to be an *** and discount your opinion. I believe what I believe and I respect that you believe what you believe.
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None of us knows but I am looking at all the evidence I can find. Number one there is no more allocations at this time, it was only going to be a 2,000 car run, they brought the 2019 out early and closed the plant dealers can not order a C7 at this time past March2019. Now if the C8 is going to be priced similar to the C7 why would they build both, no one would buy a C7 that's old hat, they would fade setting on the lot. Corvette has never produced two model years together, I don't think it will start now. I have been buying Corvette's for almost 40 years but I am no expert just going with my gut and everything I have found out. Where did the story start they would be made togetherI just can't see it. Now you on here that disagree can dog me all you want that is my opinion and we all have one. The ME car is right around the corner and it will kill the C7 ZR1 included. The plant has been shut down to retool for the C8 I believe, The C8 will be released at the Detroit Auto Show which I believe is in January. Then September we will see the C8 called a 2020 model and the C7 will fade into history. (SAYS CONFUCIUS LOL)

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Multi-year run guys...
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Multi-year run guys...
Hoping that is the case.
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Originally Posted by D'ZR1 Messiah
I don't think that it's going to be more than a 1 year car. I think the issues with the CF alone is enough to kill it alone and I think they want to have C7 go out with a bang. How wonderful would that be to have a 1 year run of the ZR1. Maybe a possibility they make an abbreviated run from Mar 2019 - Aug 2019..but not holding my breath. Many will argue that GM put too much R&D into the car to only have it run 1 year. But if you think about it...how much R&D actually went into it? It's still a C7 with a few upgrades! So not as much as many people think. I'm going with 1 year.
What do you mean by "CF". Carbon fiber??? And what are the issues?


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