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PDR Needs Updating for C8

Old 10-06-2018, 01:57 PM
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Default PDR Needs Updating for C8

The 720p video with bad lens, bad codec, FAT32 from the 1980s, and bad audio coming out of the PDR is "circa 2010" as someone here put it. It needs to be updated to current standards. If cell phones, drones, and action cams can record 4K60, then the PDR should, too. GM hasn't updated the video quality at all since this was released. It wasn't even very good when it came out.

Also the PDR should be available as a separate option, not requiring the navigation option. It's a standalone option on the Camaro. Why not the Corvette?

GM, please keep your electronics up to date if you want younger buyers.

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Old 10-06-2018, 03:34 PM
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You should complain! Have you seen the electronics on the C6 ZR1? It's from the stone age!
Old 10-06-2018, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by range96
You should complain! Have you seen the electronics on the C6 ZR1? It's from the stone age!

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Originally Posted by Michael A
The 720p video with bad lens, bad codec, FAT32 from the 1980s, and bad audio coming out of the PDR is "circa 2010" as someone here put it. It needs to be updated to current standards. If cell phones, drones, and action cams can record 4K60, then the PDR should, too. GM hasn't updated the video quality at all since this was released. It wasn't even very good when it came out.

Also the PDR should be available as a separate option, not requiring the navigation option. It's a standalone option on the Camaro. Why not the Corvette?

GM, please keep your electronics up to date if you want younger buyers.

It was a stand alone option on my '15 Z51.
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Here's a couple of suggestions also..Turn signals incorporated into the HUD, HUD matching the DIC
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Agreed. Look what Porsche is trying to do

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/09/...-from-porsche/
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Originally Posted by Michael A
The 720p video with bad lens, bad codec, FAT32 from the 1980s, and bad audio coming out of the PDR is "circa 2010" as someone here put it..
Actually, yours is better then mine, I get no audio.. IMO, The navigation is outdated compared to my other car. Unless you're into track use, the PDR its a waste of good money that could be used on other more useful options

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Old 10-06-2018, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by huge.eug
Agreed. Look what Porsche is trying to do

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/09/...-from-porsche/
That's cool. It's an augmented reality type of system.

The Corvette Team needs a technology expert to keep up on this sort of technology, and keep the Corvette leading the pack rather than near the back of it.

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Old 10-06-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael A
That's cool. It's an augmented reality type of system.

The Corvette Team needs a technology expert to keep up on this sort of technology, and keep the Corvette leading the pack rather than near the back of it.
You do realize that Cosworth is the one who created the PDR, right? Considering that it was designed a decade ago, the technology isn't terribly outdated. It's easy to upgrade hardware when you're on a yearly cycle, not so much with the lead times required in automotive production.
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My 07 Z06 Nav looks like my nine year old son did it with a crayon !

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Old 10-06-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Walter Raulerson
Here's a couple of suggestions also..Turn signals incorporated into the HUD, HUD matching the DIC
The turn signals are in the HUD on the C6.
Old 10-07-2018, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RPatrick
You do realize that Cosworth is the one who created the PDR, right? Considering that it was designed a decade ago, the technology isn't terribly outdated. It's easy to upgrade hardware when you're on a yearly cycle, not so much with the lead times required in automotive production.
I think they can update more often than every 10 years. The camera was outdated the day it came out. The resolution is low. The dynamic range is pathetic. The lens is horrible. 4K60 has been out for years now on cell phones and cameras. The GPS is 5 Hz. it should be 10 Hz by now. This thing needs updating badly. This is the problem GM has. They put in some sort of in-car electronics, and then they forget about it and don't update it. The tech world doesn't work that way.
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The camera really doesn't need anymore resolution for what it used for. What they need to do is to improve the brightness control of the recorded picture so the picture doesn't go black when the car goes from a bright area to a shadow area. They also need to incorporate more data channels into the data stream. It would be nice if it recorded boost pressure, intake manifold air temperature and intercooler pump status.

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Old 10-07-2018, 07:25 PM
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Agreed. From how some people act, they should get a GoPro. The PDR is doing a hell of a lot more than capturing picture and sound.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Agreed. From how some people act, they should get a GoPro. The PDR is doing a hell of a lot more than capturing picture and sound.


"From how some people act, they should get a GoPro." Really? It's about acting, huh?

This site never ceases to amaze me. I could say the sky should be blue, and there will be a few people who will come on here and say the sky is red, and to get some new glasses.

If there is already a camera on the car, no one should have to buy yet another one, unless they want a different POV. It doesn't matter whether or not the PDR collects other data, which by the way, it doesn't in "Tour" mode. Some of us do have 4K TVs and monitors now.(probably mainly the younger people), and we are not using flip phones anymore.

Message to GM. The PDR camera and the SD card file format are long overdue for an update. Please update this while you are updating the rest of the car.

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Old 10-08-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972
Agreed. From how some people act, they should get a GoPro. The PDR is doing a hell of a lot more than capturing picture and sound.
For the insane cost of the PDR we SHOULD be getting GoPro quality. Also, absolutely no reason not to prioritize that camera for Dash Cam duty as well .... when you consider 99% of Corvettes are not taken to a track.
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I agree, the tech needs to be better. At age 35 my wife and I just purchased a new Grand Sport and while it has alot of tech the interface and customization ability is certainly lacking. I'm not a millenial but if GM wants to lower the average age of Corvette buyer they need to have better quality systems at launch and offer updates/upgrades throughout the life of that generation. The key is to be able to upgrade along the way, plus it can generate revenue for them.

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Old 10-09-2018, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael A
"If there is already a camera on the car, no one should have to buy yet another one, unless they want a different POV. It doesn't matter whether or not the PDR collects other data, which by the way, it doesn't in "Tour" mode. Some of us do have 4K TVs and monitors now.(probably mainly the younger people), and we are not using flip phones anymore.
Let me guess, you've never tried Cosworth Toolbox? All data is recorded in every mode.
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Originally Posted by 2017C7
Let me guess, you've never tried Cosworth Toolbox? All data is recorded in every mode.
You guessed wrong. Having said that, it doesn't have data overlay in Tour Mode. The purpose of Tour Mode is straight video.

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Originally Posted by Michael A
You guessed wrong. Having said that, it doesn't have data overlay in Tour Mode. The purpose of Tour Mode is straight video.

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Overlay is not there but it is still recording ALL data as evidenced in Cosworth Toolbox.

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