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Old 11-12-2018, 10:42 AM
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I'm looking at changing out my plugs. I've read some people going with Brisk and some people going with NGK. I called NGK and they said they only have the LTR7IX-11 and I was wanting one step colder than stock but the guy I talked to said he isn't sure what the stock heat range is and said the LTR7 is the only one he has anyway. I was looking at the Brisk RR14 or 12 as well. Can anyone give me a part number for a plug for either Brisk or NGK that's one step colder than stock?

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1 step colder on the Brisk is 14RR. Katech sells them.
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Originally Posted by musclesbmf
1 step colder on the Brisk is 14RR. Katech sells them.
Is there a non projected tip version?
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I thought those were non-projected. I run the 12's (with FBO) and those are not projected.
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All small block plugs from the factory are DENSO.

C7 ZR1's use one step colder plugs than Zo6's. Higher number = colder

LT1 = DENSO #16 heat range, 1.02mm gap
LT4 = DENSO #20 heat range, 0.8mm gap
LT5 = DENSO #22 heat range, 0.8mm gap
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Originally Posted by 9T3VETTE
All small block plugs from the factory are DENSO.

C7 ZR1's use one step colder plugs than Zo6's. Higher number = colder

LT1 = DENSO #16 heat range, 1.02mm gap
LT4 = DENSO #20 heat range, 0.8mm gap
LT5 = DENSO #22 heat range, 0.8mm gap
You mean Delco A/C? I see Delco coming out of mine?

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Running one step colder Brisk Silver from Katech for my Procharged Port Inection build @18psi. So far not a single complaint working great car feels absolutely ridiculous fast. Will have to change more often but that’s ok with me.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
You mean Delco A/C? I see Delco coming out of mine?
Same plug, they are manufactured by DENSO but have an AC Delco logo. If you close at the housing you will see they say "assembled in the USA with Japanese and USA parts" --> DENSO = Japanese Company

GM forces suppliers to put AC Delco logos on parts so you will purchase replacements from GM directly. That way they can mark them up and make boat loads of $$ on replacement parts.
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Thank you for this info. I just ordered a set of ZR1 plugs today because I didn't like that I had to gap the NGK iridiums.
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For the record the NGK LTR7IX-11 is one heat range colder than the stock ACDELCO 41128.
It also comes gaped at .44 rather than the stock .30.

Not sure if the Denso's are exactly the same as what they provide for AC Delco.
The Denso's I have seen have a ridged insulator and the AC Delco's have a smooth insulator.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...park+plug,7212
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Originally Posted by dar02081961
For the record the NGK LTR7IX-11 is one heat range colder than the stock ACDELCO 41128.
It also comes gaped at .44 rather than the stock .30.

Not sure if the Denso's are exactly the same as what they provide for AC Delco.
The Denso's I have seen have a ridged insulator and the AC Delco's have a smooth insulator.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...park+plug,7212
Good catch!
I have seen that same A/C plug for a long time they use it in other models too using different gaps .. it is really good plug for about 75-80k at 100k it is a little too worn for me.

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Originally Posted by dar02081961
For the record the NGK LTR7IX-11 is one heat range colder than the stock ACDELCO 41128.
It also comes gaped at .44 rather than the stock .30.

Not sure if the Denso's are exactly the same as what they provide for AC Delco.
The Denso's I have seen have a ridged insulator and the AC Delco's have a smooth insulator.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...park+plug,7212
Good catch. DENSO is allowed to sell their own DENSO branded plugs in the aftermarket for any application they please. However since they are the OEM supplier for small block applications they also have to provide GM with plugs built to GM spec. GM then sells in the aftermarket with AC Delco logos. Aside from ribbed vs non-ribbed insualators the iridium AC delco and DENSO branded plugs are exactly the same.
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Originally Posted by djpelosi
I'm looking at changing out my plugs. I've read some people going with Brisk and some people going with NGK. I called NGK and they said they only have the LTR7IX-11 and I was wanting one step colder than stock but the guy I talked to said he isn't sure what the stock heat range is and said the LTR7 is the only one he has anyway. I was looking at the Brisk RR14 or 12 as well. Can anyone give me a part number for a plug for either Brisk or NGK that's one step colder than stock?

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Are you changing out the plugs because you're modified or because the stock plugs are inefficient?
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06
Are you changing out the plugs because you're modified or because the stock plugs are inefficient?
Modified.
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Originally Posted by dar02081961
For the record the NGK LTR7IX-11 is one heat range colder than the stock ACDELCO 41128.
It also comes gaped at .44 rather than the stock .30.
I've gotten conflicting responses on asking if the LTR7IX-11 is one step colder or stock heat range. Vengeance says it's stock, NGK says it's stock. But two other people I've spoken to say it's one step colder, and you're now the third that says it's one step colder.
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Originally Posted by musclesbmf
I thought those were non-projected. I run the 12's (with FBO) and those are not projected.
I'm running RR10S with a 9% Innovators West pulley and a tune. Went two steps colder due to higher boost pressure (at my tuner's direction). The RR's from Brisk are their Racing Silver model and are all non-projected.
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I have a holden vy ss ls1 5.7lt now any of these spark plugs

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Originally Posted by djpelosi
I've gotten conflicting responses on asking if the LTR7IX-11 is one step colder or stock heat range. Vengeance says it's stock, NGK says it's stock. But two other people I've spoken to say it's one step colder, and you're now the third that says it's one step colder.
Ok I understand exactly how you feel. Been through this and still am not 100% sure.

But here is how I came to my position.
If in fact Denso makes AC Delco's plugs and the heat range numbers for the two are the same we can deduce the following.

1. The OEM ACDELCO 41128 has a heat range of 20 according to info posted on Rock Auto for the plug. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6500556&cc=3315156&jsn=4 21

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2. If we take the Denso heat range of 20 and plug into this cross reference we will see this equates to a heat range of 6 for NGK plugs. https://www.pacificcustoms.com/boschwr8dc.html

Therefore a NGK plug with a heat range of 7 is 1 range colder than the OEM AC Delco 41128.
But not to go on just one example. If you cross the BOSCH 96313 which is the recommended Bosch replacement for the OEM AC Delco 41128 you will see that it's heat range of 7 equates to Denso's 20 and NGKs 6. This all but confirms the NGK LTR7IX-11 (heat range of 7) is 1 range cooler than the OEM plug.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=8103676&cc=3315156&jsn=4 23&jsn=423

Of course I am assuming this cross reference chart is correct and NGK or Denso haven't changed their heat range classification strategy since this info was posted.

Other than this all we have is hearsay.

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Originally Posted by dar02081961
Ok I understand exactly how you feel. Been through this and still am not 100% sure.

But here is how I came to my position.
If in fact Denso makes AC Delco's plugs and the heat range numbers for the two are the same we can deduce the following.

1. The OEM ACDELCO 41128 has a heat range of 20 according to info posted on Rock Auto for the plug. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6500556&cc=3315156&jsn=4 21

So

2. If we take the Denso heat range of 20 and plug into this cross reference we will see this equates to a heat range of 6 for NGK plugs. https://www.pacificcustoms.com/boschwr8dc.html

Therefore a NGK plug with a heat range of 7 is 1 range colder than the OEM AC Delco 41128.
But not to go on just one example. If you cross the BOSCH 96313 which is the recommended Bosch replacement for the OEM AC Delco 41128 you will see that it's heat range of 7 equates to Denso's 20 and NGKs 6. This all but confirms the NGK LTR7IX-11 (heat range of 7) is 1 range cooler than the OEM plug.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=8103676&cc=3315156&jsn=4 23&jsn=423

Of course I am assuming this cross reference chart is correct and NGK or Denso haven't changed their heat range classification strategy since this info was posted.

Other than this all we have is hearsay.

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