2650 Supercharger is in here - Initial Impressions and WEAPON-X Plans!
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2650 Supercharger is in here - Initial Impressions and WEAPON-X Plans!
So the 2650 came in last week and we're already in the process of making our improvements on it from visual impressions and then we'll see what else we do. This blower has shown to pretty easily make 800whp; however, with my ZR1's supercharger already making that with 17PSI and 18* timing on the stock long block and 93 octane, I really think this supercharger will be capable of over 1000whp on the right setup!
For you guys that want one, I have a half dozen coming in from Edelbrock next month!
Click here to buy:
https://weaponxmotorsports.com/produ...14360069046321
Pros:
Cons:
WEAPON-X Plans:
Giant dual pass intercooler:
Port Injection:
Lack of plenum volume:
Plenum airflow has to make a 180° turn in this small cavern.
At 15K blower RPM, it's expected to move 1500 CFM
At 18K blower RPM it's 1700 CFM
At 25K blower RPM and more free flowing inlet, Magnuson shows this rotor pack capable of moving 2500 CFM!
So, needless to say we're going to free up a little more space to help this breath more!
Cooling Manifold Adapters:
Four 90° bends to get out on the driver side:
102mm Inlet just needs a little porting
For you guys that want one, I have a half dozen coming in from Edelbrock next month!
Click here to buy:
https://weaponxmotorsports.com/produ...14360069046321
Pros:
- Really well constructed unit
- Impressed with intercooler size
- Impressed with the attempted intercooler flow with a -12 inlet and -10 outlets
- 102 MM inlet for larger throttle bodies
- Port Injection bungs - just need opened
Cons:
- Biggest issue is the choke point for the air flow above the lid. There is VERY little room for the compressed air to make a 180° turn to go back down into the runners
- Driver side intercooler outlet has to make FOUR 90° turns to get out of the coolant manifold vs. the Passenger side has to make just one big sweeping bend
- Need to measure, but I think we'll have to blend the inlet to get the last MM for the NW 103 TBs
- Need to open up the port injection holes
WEAPON-X Plans:
- Lid Spacer to provide more artificial plenum volume over the IC brick for improved airflow down into the runners
- Billet Coolant Manifold with AN fittings for rubber or braided lines and our upcoming dual HX pump setup or the larger Stewart pump setup
- Snout/Supercharger porting
- Port Injection Modification with our custom billet rails and brackets
- Griptec Pulleys from 3.5" down to 2.5"
- Custom high flow intercooler brick
- Custom Carbon Forged taller lid kit for hood/cowl clearance
Giant dual pass intercooler:
Port Injection:
Lack of plenum volume:
Plenum airflow has to make a 180° turn in this small cavern.
At 15K blower RPM, it's expected to move 1500 CFM
At 18K blower RPM it's 1700 CFM
At 25K blower RPM and more free flowing inlet, Magnuson shows this rotor pack capable of moving 2500 CFM!
So, needless to say we're going to free up a little more space to help this breath more!
Cooling Manifold Adapters:
Four 90° bends to get out on the driver side:
102mm Inlet just needs a little porting
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Now this has my interest and with it being < 6K, I’m eagerly awaiting results! And to see the pics, click the first image and it will then allow you to scroll thru them (they are not showing in the post).
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Damn you Ben, I haven't even picked my car up yet from your shop and you have me thinking about this. This is why I did not take you up on the offer to look at this 2650 last week when I was there for the dyno tuning.
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I think this is pretty big for these... If you just screw around on the street, or maybe drag race, it will be fine but I'm not sure I would want to road race this blower. I could foresee some crazy differences in cylinder temps/stress.
- Biggest issue is the choke point for the air flow above the lid. There is VERY little room for the compressed air to make a 180° turn to go back down into the runners
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Hood yes, but the cowl will still need trimmed I believe on the C7 just like the Whipple. VERY minimal modification and a new plastic wiper cowl would hide the little sheet metal trimming that needs done if you ever decide to revert to stock. Wipers etc are unaffected.
I think this is pretty big for these... If you just screw around on the street, or maybe drag race, it will be fine but I'm not sure I would want to road race this blower. I could foresee some crazy differences in cylinder temps/stress.
- Biggest issue is the choke point for the air flow above the lid. There is VERY little room for the compressed air to make a 180° turn to go back down into the runners
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Yes <$6K indeed!
Haha yea I will have more next month IF you're ready! 800lb ft of torque not enough for you though?
Ben I think the 742 HP & 803 wheel TQ will be enough for now. Nice to know though that the 2650 is there if I want more later. I really appreciate the great service and outstanding job you guys did on my Z06.
Yes <$6K indeed!
Haha yea I will have more next month IF you're ready! 800lb ft of torque not enough for you though?
Ben I think the 742 HP & 803 wheel TQ will be enough for now. Nice to know though that the 2650 is there if I want more later. I really appreciate the great service and outstanding job you guys did on my Z06.
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Yes <$6K indeed!
Haha yea I will have more next month IF you're ready! 800lb ft of torque not enough for you though?
Ben I think the 742 HP & 803 wheel TQ will be enough for now. Nice to know though that the 2650 is there if I want more later. I really appreciate the great service and outstanding job you guys did on my Z06.
Yes <$6K indeed!
Haha yea I will have more next month IF you're ready! 800lb ft of torque not enough for you though?
Ben I think the 742 HP & 803 wheel TQ will be enough for now. Nice to know though that the 2650 is there if I want more later. I really appreciate the great service and outstanding job you guys did on my Z06.
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Wow!
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Great info as per usual weaponX! How thick is the intercooler core on this blower? Will be nice to see what this can produce. Also be nice to see if porting can help as much as it dose on stock blowers.
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I thought Jstew's build and mine were pretty similar, that is an incredible difference in power # especially considering I did a cam
Where am I leaving the apparent 50hp 100tq on the table?
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Well I didn't want to bring it up since that was likely my Z.....but since you mentioned it
I thought Jstew's build and mine were pretty similar, that is an incredible difference in power # especially considering I did a cam
Where am I leaving the apparent 50hp 100tq on the table?
I thought Jstew's build and mine were pretty similar, that is an incredible difference in power # especially considering I did a cam
Where am I leaving the apparent 50hp 100tq on the table?
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yep your numbers on 93 with heads/cam are pretty common unless you go with a radical cam and overspin the supercharger to approx 28K, but still you need octane to do that. his numbers are really impressive though for the stock long block... free up some of that boost with a cam and it would be pretty insane! we did a stock long block with the whipple and e85 and it made 810whp at 23psi, and the same build with heads/cam and it made 870whp with 18psi. long story short, the stock cam is very restrictive once you start trying to push 1800 CFM through it.