Pilot Super Sport vs. Pilot Sport Cup 2
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Pilot Super Sport vs. Pilot Sport Cup 2
Sorry for another tire thread, but I am about to replace my 6 year old tires on my 13 427 vert. It only has 7,000 miles and I will probably only drive it a couple thousand miles per year moving forward. That being said, I do not care about tread life so I am leaning towards the Cup 2s for a little better traction. I don't track the car, It's just my weekend fun car that gets driven spiritedly. I don't drive it in bad weather. I don't mind the super sports except 1st gear traction is almost non-existent when hammering the throttle. Also my car has the 19"/20" Cup Wheels so selection is sparse and I am set on going with one of the Michelins. Is there any reason not to go with the sport cup 2s?
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If you don't plan on cold or wet conditions, I like the grip and handling better of the Cup2s. Some complain about throwing rocks or chips but the real concern is for the car behind you
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I had the Cup II's on my car. Great tire but I drive it a bit more than you drive yours so I switched back to PSS when the time came. I switched my front wheels to 19" from the stock 18" ones. So now I'm 19" all the way around. I think you'll find that if you do the same to your rear wheels you'll not only pick up some more options for tires, I run the 345/30-19", but you'll be much happier with the handling.
I'd buy the Cup II's if I were you.
Good luck!
Don't even think about run flats, the worst tires I ever owned.
I'd buy the Cup II's if I were you.
Good luck!
Don't even think about run flats, the worst tires I ever owned.
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With the low miles that you are driving plus only being a weekend car, I would recommend the Cup2's. Cup2's should last about 3-5k miles without going to the track and by that time, they will be aged out anyways with the miles you put on.
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Thanks for all the responses. The only drawback to the Cup 2s for me seems to be what DebRedZR1 pointed out. I live on country roads. They are paved, but my current tires pick up a lot of road debris and it makes me cringe hear it hit the car. Don't want to sound stupid here, but what about going SS up front with Cup 2s on the rear? I have never had a problem with front end grip on the Super Sports. Do you think it would adversely effect handling?
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With what you do with your car you should be fine. If you said you sometimes track, autocross or push really hard in the twisties then I would say run Cups all the way around.
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Are you ONLY limiting to the Pilot series? From you description, it doesn't sound like you're doing anything extremely aggressive and some non runflats might be a better call. The Continentals hook pretty well and best of all, they are MUCH quieter.
For reference, I had a 427 with the same tires as you a few years back. I now have a ZR1 with the Contis. I can speak from experience about all these tires. The TQ the ZR makes can challenge the Contis pretty easy, but the LS7 wasn't near as torquey down low and never had any issues with hooking once they were warmed up.
I really don't know as though Michelins sound like a must from the way your talking. Just some food for thought.
For reference, I had a 427 with the same tires as you a few years back. I now have a ZR1 with the Contis. I can speak from experience about all these tires. The TQ the ZR makes can challenge the Contis pretty easy, but the LS7 wasn't near as torquey down low and never had any issues with hooking once they were warmed up.
I really don't know as though Michelins sound like a must from the way your talking. Just some food for thought.
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From what you describe for your driving and miles you put on no reason not to go with the Cup2's. A long time ago when I was doing track days in my daily driver BMW I ran a summer on Victoracers (Kumho DOTR tire way back, like the Cup2 is today) and was pretty fun.
Yes a down side will absolutely be more rocks/gravel/sand kicking up. Its just a car
I would NOT mix PSS and Cup2. The carcass/sidewall construction as well as the grip difference likely to cause funky handling, at a minimum it could feel funky. I'd call and talk to someone at Tire Rack before doing this. Cup2 is not a PSS with softer rubber.
Yes a down side will absolutely be more rocks/gravel/sand kicking up. Its just a car
I would NOT mix PSS and Cup2. The carcass/sidewall construction as well as the grip difference likely to cause funky handling, at a minimum it could feel funky. I'd call and talk to someone at Tire Rack before doing this. Cup2 is not a PSS with softer rubber.
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Exactly. The Cups are great on track when they reach around 190 degrees. Despite their looks you can really never heat them up on the street, the super sports have more grip across a greater temp range—and last 2-3 times as long.