the professor

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...-corvette-zr1/

UnhandledException

I m sure if he had Porsche’s R tires and the track to himself, he would post a low 6:50s time.

keagan

I would love to hear about the Z06 & ZR1 run from Jim.

TARANTULA

People here don’t care about Ring times.

punky

Really? Ya think?

You nailed that one.

Does anyone honestly believe that one more or one fewer Z06 or ZR1 would be sold because of a "Ring Time"? Forget about it. Doesn't matter.

SouthernSon

Whoa now. Time out! Some of us do. When I am on a short straight and need to pass a fast car I want all the acceleration I can get with handling to carry speed through the next turn. Whether that is a concern of yours or not is not in my equation. It is a concern of mine and has been for the last 15 years or so of running road courses as it is of many others on this forum that have a great deal of experience on road courses.

BTW, a few months ago I finally got a full cage, coil overs and bushings in my somewhat modified C5Z but got a ZR1 last December when I started getting the statistics on it. I have yet to take the C5Z to the track after the last mods. but will after I get a few events in the ZR1.

TARANTULA

You didn’t get my sarcasm. I’m one of those that care.

Ronstar

...or at least broke 7 minutes

Boba Fett

agreed, I was giving the C7ZR1 the high 6'50's.....

KnightDriveTV

Guess I am just that in tune...gonna have to search my old posts...had the stingray time dead ***** and the Z06 time. I felt strongly the ZR1 wasnt breaking 7 but I’d hoped it could pull it off. 7:04 is stout for sure but...just doesnt have the grip to do a 6. I personally think someone other than Mero shouldve been running the ZR1.

Clearly the Z06 was pulling timing if they were running 7:10’s but using 100octane to do it, which was fairly predictable as Sport Auto ran 7:13 with a couple of errors.

The Stingray time was based upon my use of GT6 as I was running repeated 7:35’s in it and ended up in the 7:31 range driving at the extreme limits that wouldnt be real life compatible in terms of risk.

Then we have Lou Gigliotti runnin low 9’s in the track Z06...lmao

DebRedZR1

Good to see the numbers demonstrating how well this car can run with those at a much higher cost

SouthernSon

Gotcha! My bad! I have seen too many posters here that just don't get it.

Jim Mero

HI all,

Full disclosure about the conditions under how the lap was run is part of my Bash presentation.

There is also a second lap/story behind it. If there is anyone on the planet who knows you need to actually run the time, it's me. But that's not going to happen.

After the descriptions of the 2 laps are revealed, each can draw their own conclusion, and probably will.

Relying on my 18 years of Nurburgring development, coupled with the hundreds of hours of data analysis I did on the ZR1, I can assure you the ZR1 is a sub 7 car. Even with all that, you need luck. The probability of luck diminishes when we are at the Nurburgring 2 of the 18 weeks of industrypool.

I apologize for being vague, but that's all i can offer at the moment.

Ruz

The times have nothing to do with sales...

2500 hd

Jim, thanks for the reply.....

punky

"Ring Times" don't matter to 99.999% of the world. How many people on earth have ever even heard of the "Ring" or "Ring Times"?

Who cares and what does it matter if car X posts a "Ring Time" of 6:58 or 7:03? There are a few here that I have seen resort to personal attacks when these metrics are discussed. The plethora of variables involved make the times that much more meaningless.

Jim Mero

So, at the risk of being pummeled, I am going to interject my 2 cents, which is probably what it’s worth.

The beauty of free expression is we all can have it.

If you care about lap times, that’s great.

If you don’t care about lap times, that’s great.

Clearly, I care about lap times, but I don’t judge, or have any issues with someone who does not.

If I’ve offended anyone with this post, that was not my intention.

Jim

64drvr

Jim,

Thank you for taking the time to post and congrats on an impressive run. We appreciate your hard work in car development and the translation to the performance we get to experience.

orclubduck

Jim,

Having your contribution to this forum is so beneficial to many of us.

When myopic forum members who only post to get a reaction chime in, the appropriate course of action is not to feed them. This is an open forum, and I hope you feel welcome, as you have so much to share, when you are able to!!

I hope you get some time at Spring Mountain Ranch after they complete their expansion...much less jet lag and I guarantee no Volkswagen Vanagons to maneuver around!!

Cheers from a Happy Zed-R1 owner...

Ruz

A time at the Ring, or any race track for that matter, is a measurement of performance. It shows no bias, no excuses, no value, no worthiness...it is just a number..an absolute. It's the same thing as an Olympic 100 yard dash, or a swimming race, or any of a number of other events are measured down to the thousandth of a second...because the competition is so intense. Nobody complained that Michael Phelps is too tall, or his feet are too big, or any of a thousand other factors that could come into play for him or any other Olympic athlete. All that matters is the time.

The Ring is nothing more. In performance car measurement, many treat it as THE measurement when evaluating the capability of a vehicle due to the demands of the track.

Find value in that number, or don't...the choice is yours. Many have an excuse for why their vehicle isn't faster than something else, and maybe that is a good thing (at least can make for some funny conversations)...but a Ring time is nothing more than a number. What you take from it is up to you.