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Old Mar 25, 2022 | 08:21 AM
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For all the financial education aficionados out there:

In your view, what is the annual gross income and/or net worth required to be able to justify a C8 Z06 purchase?

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
all of these are minimums that should be in place:

300k in checking/savings (cash)
75k in 401k for every year you have been working (600k if you are 30-32ish)
no debt except for possibly a mortgage, no credit card balance, nothing
other means of utilitarian transportation
and finally annual income of at least 250k depending on your monthly nut/cash flow situation

if you make 150k a year, have 50k in the bank and negative equity on one car you plan to trade then you would be making a mistake "getting approved" for a Z06.

now if you plan to flip the car before you make a payment then by all means, flip it and invest the profits.

(this is just what I think would be the necessary minimum to consider the Z06, not necessarily what it would take to buy one if you wanted to be car poor)
How many 30 year olds do you know that have 600k in retirement and 300k in checking/savings?
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If your approved for the loan you should buy it, thus as little as possible. Income not as relevant as debt.
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20% of gross income for any depreciating asset (and yes, that's what it is)
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Originally Posted by oaktreebc
If your approved for the loan you should buy it, thus as little as possible. Income not as relevant as debt.
Banks will typically approve you for 2x or 3x what your budget can reasonably withstand. Never let the bank determine what you can afford.

Personally, Vettes are toys, and I don't take out loans for toys. That said, you need to take a good look at your monthly expenses and see how much disposable income you have, and how much you want to tie up for X years in car payments. As mentioned above, income isn't really relevant. How much of that income you're spending is.

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all of these are minimums that should be in place:

300k in checking/savings (cash)
75k in 401k for every year you have been working (600k if you are 30-32ish)
no debt except for possibly a mortgage, no credit card balance, nothing
other means of utilitarian transportation
and finally annual income of at least 250k depending on your monthly nut/cash flow situation

if you make 150k a year, have 50k in the bank and negative equity on one car you plan to trade then you would be making a mistake "getting approved" for a Z06.

now if you plan to flip the car before you make a payment then by all means, flip it and invest the profits.

(this is just what I think would be the necessary minimum to consider the Z06, not necessarily what it would take to buy one if you wanted to be car poor)
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There isn’t a single income the equates to “affording” anything. Debt, savings, interest rates, etc all factor in. But here’s a way to look at it that might be useful. The average income in America is about $51k per year, and the average car transaction is around $34k, so the average annual income is 1.5x the average purchase price. Let’s say the average Z06 comes in around $115k after some options, that equates to an average income of $172k.
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$1,000,000 - obviously 😂
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
all of these are minimums that should be in place:

300k in checking/savings (cash)
75k in 401k for every year you have been working (600k if you are 30-32ish)
no debt except for possibly a mortgage, no credit card balance, nothing
other means of utilitarian transportation
and finally annual income of at least 250k depending on your monthly nut/cash flow situation

if you make 150k a year, have 50k in the bank and negative equity on one car you plan to trade then you would be making a mistake "getting approved" for a Z06.

now if you plan to flip the car before you make a payment then by all means, flip it and invest the profits.

(this is just what I think would be the necessary minimum to consider the Z06, not necessarily what it would take to buy one if you wanted to be car poor)
How many 30 year olds do you know that have 600k in retirement and 300k in checking/savings?
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Financial advice is about as valuable as anyone telling you what color shirt you should wear today.

Some people spend their lives saving for that one day in the distant future when they’ll be able to do x, or buy y, or travel to z, then that day never comes.

Do what you want to do with your money when you want to do it.
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Originally Posted by cmb396
How many 30 year olds do you know that have 600k in retirement and 300k in checking/savings?
Are you saying you weren't putting a minimum $75k per year into your 401k from age 22-30?! Eeek
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Originally Posted by 555ctsv
Are you saying you weren't putting a minimum $75k per year into your 401k from age 22-30?! Eeek
(sarcasm!)
Exactly!!!!
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
20% of gross income for any depreciating asset (and yes, that's what it is)
And I would say it is a lot more complicated than that. Are you married? Kids? Mortgage? Debt? Net worth? The real problem is we do not know how long we are going to live. Thus, we do not know how much retirement we need or how much time we have to enjoy life. It is all a balancing act.
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I'd say a $ amount of income isn't that good of a figure, a better way would be keeping all the costs for all your vehicles, car+insurance+gas+maintenance etc within 10-20% of your take home pay. It's all going to depend on what you want to put down, if your house is paid off or not, etc. What good is a 400k income if they have 200k of student debt, $40k note on an SUV, don't own a home, and have two young kids. While someone else on $150k with no debts is taking home $8k a month and could easily finance a Z06 and keep the costs pretty low, especially if it's their only car or they have a paid-off beater as a second car.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
all of these are minimums that should be in place:

300k in checking/savings (cash)
75k in 401k for every year you have been working (600k if you are 30-32ish)
no debt except for possibly a mortgage, no credit card balance, nothing
other means of utilitarian transportation
and finally annual income of at least 250k depending on your monthly nut/cash flow situation

if you make 150k a year, have 50k in the bank and negative equity on one car you plan to trade then you would be making a mistake "getting approved" for a Z06.

now if you plan to flip the car before you make a payment then by all means, flip it and invest the profits.

(this is just what I think would be the necessary minimum to consider the Z06, not necessarily what it would take to buy one if you wanted to be car poor)

Hahahaha. 75K for every year you've been working!! You're only allowed to contribute $20,500 a year (before match)...

Man Higgs you have high standards for us all
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I'm making about 80k a year(midwest). But I have no other debt, other than a mortgage locked at 2.875%. By the time I get my Z06, I'll be able to pay cash.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
all of these are minimums that should be in place:

300k in checking/savings (cash)
75k in 401k for every year you have been working (600k if you are 30-32ish)
no debt except for possibly a mortgage, no credit card balance, nothing
other means of utilitarian transportation
and finally annual income of at least 250k depending on your monthly nut/cash flow situation

if you make 150k a year, have 50k in the bank and negative equity on one car you plan to trade then you would be making a mistake "getting approved" for a Z06.

now if you plan to flip the car before you make a payment then by all means, flip it and invest the profits.

(this is just what I think would be the necessary minimum to consider the Z06, not necessarily what it would take to buy one if you wanted to be car poor)
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