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It doesn't look like KNS sells anything for C7 ZR1s on which carbon brakes are standard so why waste our time SPAMing this forum?
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We sell Carbon pad options as well as Girodisc Iron swaps for C7 ZR1s. I personally have sold many products for C7 ZR1s.
Feel free to give me a call any time 919-420-0021.

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Originally Posted by KNSBrakes
We sell Carbon pad options as well as Girodisc Iron swaps for C7 ZR1s. I personally have sold many products for C7 ZR1s.
Feel free to give me a call any time 919-420-0021.

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When you say Carbon Pad Options for C7 ZR1s what does that mean ?
Do you mean multiple types of Pads that can be used on the Ceramic Rotors ?
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Yes, we have a few options that can be used on the OEM carbon ceramic rotors. There are a few customers of ours running Pagid compounds and are very happy with them!
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Originally Posted by KNSBrakes
We sell Carbon pad options as well as Girodisc Iron swaps for C7 ZR1s. I personally have sold many products for C7 ZR1s.
Feel free to give me a call any time 919-420-0021.

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In your estimation why should someone convert to iron brakes on a C7 ZR1?
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That's the answer to my question?

I think I'll continue to buy brake pads and the like from Porterfield Enterprises.
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That's the answer to my question?

I think I'll continue to buy brake pads and the like from Porterfield Enterprises.
Porterfield is a great company. We talk to Wendy all the time. Too bad they were screwed by Raybestoso whom have completley lost the racing pad market. (Granted zillions of street brakes make a LOT more $$ but everyone LOVED the wear of the ST-43's)


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Originally Posted by Hib Halverson
In your estimation why should someone convert to iron brakes on a C7 ZR1?
Without cost considerations there are few who should convert from CCM to iron. If you are tracking your car very hard and very frequently the running cost of CCM spares can be considerable and thus the swap may make sense. Additionally higher end iron based racing friction works better but again not many users go that far.

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Originally Posted by Oskee
When you say Carbon Pad Options for C7 ZR1s what does that mean ?
Do you mean multiple types of Pads that can be used on the Ceramic Rotors ?
The OEM CCM pads are the best street or really even light track option. No one can out-engineer GM/Brembo on those.

There are some CCM based pads from Pagid - they have 3 flavors of which only 2 are good with GM discs. (Pagid is part of the same parent co. who makes the OEM CCM pads - at least that is the worlds worst kept secret) TMD friction iirc.

It's the opposite of iron brakes whree the list of flavors is Endless (brake joke!! Endless!



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Originally Posted by Hib Halverson
It doesn't look like KNS sells anything for C7 ZR1s on which carbon brakes are standard so why waste our time SPAMing this forum?
We have a listing for the C7 Z07 - same brakes as the ZR1. Just need to update the car selector on that to include the ZR1 so THANKS for pointing that out. The EBC pads need to be updated as well - they are showing up as CCM compatible and ain't no way that is happening. This work never ends

There are CCM options for pads and BBK's. We list an iron conversion as a separate 'car' for ease of selction by the customer.

https://www.knsbrakes.com/products/c.../_All+Products

Note on OEM parts. The dealers and Amazon give that away at single digit margins so you are stuck with them. I'd love to help but there is nothing there.

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Without cost considerations there are few who should convert from CCM to iron. If you are tracking your car very hard and very frequently the running cost of CCM spares can be considerable and thus the swap may make sense. Additionally higher end iron based racing friction works better but again not many users go that far.

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What do you mean about "higher-end iron based racing friction?

Also, how is it better?

Does your testing show that the high-end iron brakes are enough better than the carabon brakes that the improvement offsets the increase in unsprung mass when one converts to iron brakes?

As for Porterfiled getting screwed by Raybestos...wasn't aware of that, but I've used their stuff for many years as I was one of the late Andy Porterfield's pals and, when I was a lot younger, crewed for me when he was running the Trans-Am back in the late 70s with a C3 Corvette-based car. The last set of pads I bought from them were R4-S for an ATS-V. Which of your brake pads would be good for an ATS-V that sees performance street driving and occasional "light" track use?

Lastly, you posted that ZR1 and Z06 CCM brakes are the same. When GM introduced the car to media it told us the front brakes on a ZR1 were different. The pads are supposedly more aggressive and the brake discs were upgraded for improved performance and durability. When I interviewed Tadge Juechter at a media event in L.A. back in late November, 2017, he said, "They all have ceramics. The calipers are the same. The brakes look the same but the discs go through another process at Brembo. They are "HT2" extra-high-temperature-baked discs. Also, we use more competition-oriented pads on the front."

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