Why the delay for GS-X?
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Why the delay for GS-X?
I haven't heard anybody bring this up?
It makes no sense to me. Given it's just the new generation of the existing awd hybrid?
If it had something to do with the LS6? The Grandsport and Stingrays are already being produced.
Goes back to making me wonder if this wasn't a parts restriction having to do with the hybrid setup in some way to begin with. Or are they trying to get more ZR1X built? Weird.
Profit margins?
It makes no sense to me. Given it's just the new generation of the existing awd hybrid?
If it had something to do with the LS6? The Grandsport and Stingrays are already being produced.
Goes back to making me wonder if this wasn't a parts restriction having to do with the hybrid setup in some way to begin with. Or are they trying to get more ZR1X built? Weird.
Profit margins?
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I think the GSX is going to be just as rare as the Erays. Limited production and hard to find.
I tend to agree about the parts availability for this type of platform. But what would be the shortage? The AWD system, battery and/or associated components, or is GM just limiting production to spread the wealth of parts to the other AWD vehicles. Not sure, but seems odd.
I wonder if this will potentially mirror the entire Eray production process, a slow production rate.
I tend to agree about the parts availability for this type of platform. But what would be the shortage? The AWD system, battery and/or associated components, or is GM just limiting production to spread the wealth of parts to the other AWD vehicles. Not sure, but seems odd.
I wonder if this will potentially mirror the entire Eray production process, a slow production rate.
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Since they are upgrading the electric motor to the same used on the ZR1X, they may be prioritizing the higher profit margin it pulls, so saving the motors for it.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
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I’m expecting we will see double the production of GSX over E-ray. So many people still think it’s electric or fully hybrid to get better mpg. Branding matters and GSX won’t carry that stigma after the ZR1X captured people’s attention to what the X means: MORE POWAH!!!
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I am president of our local Corvette Club in Iowa. I had to explain to several members that my ERay is a HYBRID and not FULLY ELECTRIC. While they aren't currently in the market for different Corvettes, I think that many older Corvette owners and enthusiasts, as well as potential new Corvette buyers definitely are confused and stayed away from the ERay. If and when I feel the need for another Corvette, it will be a used ERay or a new GSX.
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Since they are upgrading the electric motor to the same used on the ZR1X, they may be prioritizing the higher profit margin it pulls, so saving the motors for it.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
And the motor was essentially the same in E-Ray as ZR1X! Same motor winding, same 1.9 kWh battery. They did increase the motor bearings to handle the 26/160 = 16% higher power, probably a trivial cost. Same with the statement that the magnesium case had increased stiffness. May have been a slight change to the casting mold. Was never planned to have two versions, IMO. And Tadge said they wind the motor themselves in a facility in Michigan. Perhaps the same place they also assemble the EV battery themselves from pouch Cells they get from LG. Tadge also said they did that themselves.
My guess is the whole battery assembly and motor come from a GM facility.
Pic of motor Tadge said they wind themselves . Bottom Left is one of 80 LG Pouch Cells they assemble for the EV Battery.
So why the slow production of E-Rays?
My guess was they didn't want a lot out as they knew they were increasing the FW power. Josh Holder said how it was done. It was the software of the high frequency 3 phase AC motor control. They let the battery utilization to go from 20% to max 80% for the E-Ray to a low of 10% and as high as 90% for the ZR1X (and now GSX.) That allows a higher voltage for longer at max acceleration increasing hp.
Why is it delayed a few months after the GS?
My guess it there will be manufacturing line issues with a new motor installation and other changes, cooling etc. Might as well get those resolved before adding the EV front motor complications. Just a guess.
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I’m expecting we will see double the production of GSX over E-ray. So many people still think it’s electric or fully hybrid to get better mpg. Branding matters and GSX won’t carry that stigma after the ZR1X captured people’s attention to what the X means: MORE POWAH!!!
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Since they are upgrading the electric motor to the same used on the ZR1X, they may be prioritizing the higher profit margin it pulls, so saving the motors for it.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
Also, there are shortages of the base metals, aluminum and magnesium, the motors are made of, limiting availability of the electric motors.
And, owing to the lesser demand, apparently, for the E-Ray(really???), they may be holding back to try and create demand or just gauge the worth of even building the GSX.
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Yesterday I inquired about an allocation that a dealer had for a GSX, they wanted 10% down which is non refundable just to put the order in. I think I'll wait until the hoopla dies down a bit about this model if I do choose to go with a GSX.
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No dealer has a GSX allocation yet, they were trying to lock you in for what could be a long wait. That’s a clue to avoid that dealer IMO.
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I am guessing they are going to start sooner. I am # 1 at my dealer for GSX and hoping for July allocation - time will tell ! Traded in early a 25 ERAY HTC at dealer.
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I agree the average person did not differentiate an EV, from PHEV from "Performance Hybrid" (which F1 Race Cars have been for ~10 years.) The Grand Sport Name and ZR1X besting the ZR1 at Nürburgring with it's 1/4 mile time of 8.67 seconds and 159 mph may have helped with some Corvette owner's BUT not all! Will take time. Feeling of being "pushed" into EVs, no natural gas stoves etc was troubling.
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Sad commentary that it would be a "stigma" for a car to have more hp, be way quicker but have some type of electrification. I would be okay with a flux capacitor powering the Corvette if it is way faster - and can even fly. As to being "pushed" into EV's I am sure many today our happy as they drive past those gas stations with the price of gas.
We sure are glad for my wife's 4th BMW X5 SUV bought in 2025 is a PHEV. Most of her driving is local, max ~45 miles/day. We have been on time of use power billing since we moved to SC in 1985. Duke power was pushing for home owner's what all industry uses. Now with a number of companies adding large large solar cells to generate power and selling excess back to Duke, our high Peak Cost hours are only 3 to 4 hours a day In fact my neighbor farmer turned several hundred acers into solar cells. Makes more selling power to Duke than growing crops (our weather in NE SC is not the best for many crops.)So we pay a discount even from off peak rate from 9 PM to ~6 AM of only 0.053/kWh. I had a 220 volt power line and plug in the garage for a welder. It's only a 20 amp circuit. The BMW with a battery showing no EV miles is at max, 48 miles in <5 hours. Cost equates to ~25% the cost of gasoline. Even less with the current high gas price!
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