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Old 05-21-2005, 05:19 PM
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Does anybody know if the light blackout kits are illegal in CA? I'm thinking about the ones at http://www.exoticvette.com/Exotic%20Vette/blackout.htm
My concern is providing another excuse to be pulled over by the LEOs if the blackouts are illegal in CA.
Old 05-21-2005, 05:27 PM
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Yes, blackouts are illegal in CA.

So, do you have non-factory tinted side-windows? Do you have a front license plate? How about stickers on the window? We got pulled over for having blue leds in the interior.

Basically, if they want to pull you over, they will. However, all of the above is a $10 fixit ticket. So, either go stock, or take your chances.
Old 05-21-2005, 05:51 PM
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Not to mention that I don't see a front plate in your sig photo...
Old 05-21-2005, 07:27 PM
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Thanks for the responses. You are both right. I already have 2 strikes against me. No front plate & the side windows are tinted. The question is if I want to go for 3 strikes and add the blackouts.
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I have blackouts front and rear with no front plate and was not cited for either of those when I was recently cited for speeding. I'm still not convinced that the blackouts are illegal.
Old 05-22-2005, 05:28 PM
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WTH, I have decided to go for the 3 strikes & get the blackout kit.
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Originally Posted by DirteeDave
I have blackouts front and rear with no front plate and was not cited for either of those when I was recently cited for speeding. I'm still not convinced that the blackouts are illegal.
They are, I got pulled over just for that. Fixit ticket
Old 05-22-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DirteeDave
I have blackouts front and rear with no front plate and was not cited for either of those when I was recently cited for speeding. I'm still not convinced that the blackouts are illegal.
they are, got pulled over just for that, fix it ticket
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The blackouts look cool, especially on a black car......but they make your brake lights much less effective......and we all know how many people aren't paying attention when they drive. I'd hate for someone to rear end me because they did not see my brake lights.
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Originally Posted by RDVT4ME
The blackouts look cool, especially on a black car......but they make your brake lights much less effective......and we all know how many people aren't paying attention when they drive. I'd hate for someone to rear end me because they did not see my brake lights.
Since I'm also considering installing blackouts, I was curious if they made the brake lights much less effective. So, during yesterday's Hooter's cruise I spent some time following ...



When his tail-lamps weren't lit, you could hardly tell he had stop lights. Bbbbbut, when he steped on the brakes, they magically appeared and were readily visible. In a way, because of the dramatic contrast, I felt that the tail lights may actually be MORE effective with blackouts than just regular!

After following ANIT SVT, I decided to install the blackout kit.

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if someone did hit you in the rear they could very well likely use the fact that you had blk outs against you.
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I keep hearing people say that blackout kits are illegal but I don't see anything specific in the CA Vehicle Code. There are restrictions relating to the distance that lights must be seen. I would guess that the degree of the blackout kit, much like the degree of window tinting, is the key factor as to whether they are illegal.
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They are illegal.
They look cool.
They are red when you hit the brakes.


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Old 05-23-2005, 01:56 PM
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Haven't you heard? Nothing is legal in Kalifornia.
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Originally Posted by FallenWhun
if someone did hit you in the rear they could very well likely use the fact that you had blk outs against you.

Now, THAT'S a compelling argument. Especially since I was recently rear-ended!

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I have blackouts, no cats, no mufflers, and a huge cam..........I think I take my chances
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Originally Posted by FallenWhun
if someone did hit you in the rear they could very well likely use the fact that you had blk outs against you.

the insurance companies will use this against you everytime in court... same thing for any of these cheap apc tail lights that are clear, anything violation of the VC they can use in a rear end accident they will use i have seen it happen in small claims..

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:57 PM
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I hate to add more bad news, but tinted side windows are no longer a "fix it" ticket. One of our forum members, who is a cop , told me that as of January 1 2005, if you get a ticket for tinted windows, it now counts against you like a moving volation. So you have been warned.
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Would a cop or DMV employee please quote the specific section of the CA Vehicle Code that states the blackout kit and window tinting are illegal. I can't find it.
Maybe its because I'm looking through tinted windows and my lights aren't bright enough because of the blackout kit.
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Originally Posted by Bakersfield
I hate to add more bad news, but tinted side windows are no longer a "fix it" ticket. One of our forum members, who is a cop , told me that as of January 1 2005, if you get a ticket for tinted windows, it now counts against you like a moving volation. So you have been warned.
This can't possibly be true.........


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