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BUYER BEWARE!!!! Avoid "Ron's Classic Cars" in Soddy-Daisy, TN!!!
I am embarrassed to admit my bonehead mistake, I should have proceeded with a little more caution.... sometimes, life lessons have to be learned the hard way. AVOID "RON'S CLASSIC CARS"... BUYER BEWARE!!!!
Case in point:
(My apologies, these are screen shots, so click on them to make it a little easier to read)
BBB reports, though will make you feel warm and fuzzy are worthless in getting anything done. BBB is a marketing tool, there is no teeth behind anything...
If you want to grab them (a car dealer) by the short hairs, file a written/formal complaint with the department in their state that holds their sales license.
This will get their attention.... And remember is costs you nothing, the state auditors and investigators are hired to look into wrong doings, they are paid to dig...
Also, My guess if you attempt to file a report with the police, they will quickly point out it is a civil matter and to talk to an attorney. But before you do that, read my earlier suggestion. Good Luck!
I am embarrassed to admit my bonehead mistake, I should have proceeded with a little more caution.... sometimes, life lessons have to be learned the hard way. AVOID "RON'S CLASSIC CARS"... BUYER BEWARE!!!!
Case in point:
(My apologies, these are screen shots, so click on them to make it a little easier to read)
If the $5,400 you sent to them wasn't 10% of the purchase price, it would be tough for them to argue that the money was a deposit since they say they require 10%.
I also agree with the other response you got about the BBB not having any teeth to get your money back. They don't have enforcement powers. Been there, done that.
I would try the licensing agency as you were advised and then get a lawyer if all else fails. A short letter from an attorney often is enough to do the job in cases like this.
Call the Attorney General's office for the state of TN and the State Corporation Comm. They may help you or point you in the right direction. Don't give up on the wire transfer. An attorney is going to be expensive and you may end up putting more money down this rat hole.
I see ads in NCRS Driveline for lawyers specializing in classic car fraud. I suggest talking to a lawyer. May cost a few hundred $$, but you will get most of your deposit back. I know a few friends who used lawyers (for regular cars) and it turned out well for them. The dealer will decide its much easier to give your money back than to defend. Just my $0.02. Good luck and keep us posted.
I disagree that the BBB is ineffectual. I have had 100% success resolving disputes using them as a resource.
I only traded a car in once in my life...to a dealer that had a decent reputation and had been in business for 60+ years. To make a very long story short, they did not pay off the loan on the trade and after numerous attempts to get them to do so, I invoked the BBB. They informed the secretary of state police immediately, and I had the loan payoff in-hand within 48 hours. The dealer ceased to exist shortly thereafter.
Filed with them on 6 bad wheels and tires from a loca shop, they pretty much laughed at it. Sleazeballs...didnt have the time to take them to small claims. Most people never pursue thats why they keep doing it .
I tried to read the complaint and I'm pretty sure I'm missing something...This is all because the seller was rude to the fella who came to look at the car?
I don't mean to be a jerk but the time for inspection is not after/during the point when you are sending a deposit.
For all you know the car is exactly as described right? Or did I miss something....
I got burned a few years back, by "worldwide vintage autos" in Denver, sold the car back to them, then joined every forum, did yelp, ripoff report and went crazy, an a-hole there called me a year later and refunded the balance of my money, it can work,
That can be effective but make sure you can back up what you write with strong proof. You don't want them coming after you with a libel case .
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Originally Posted by karkrafter
I tried to read the complaint and I'm pretty sure I'm missing something...This is all because the seller was rude to the fella who came to look at the car?
I don't mean to be a jerk but the time for inspection is not after/during the point when you are sending a deposit.
For all you know the car is exactly as described right? Or did I miss something....
If I understand correctly, as soon as the buyer said he wanted someone to inspect the car, the seller started getting rude and upset. This raised a red flag to the buyer, wondering if there was something to hide. OP or Benton can correct me if that's wrong.
If I understand correctly, as soon as the buyer said he wanted someone to inspect the car, the seller started getting rude and upset. This raised a red flag to the buyer, wondering if there was something to hide. OP or Benton can correct me if that's wrong.
No, no I understand that...I question send $$ BEFORE you arrange to look at it.
I find buyers don't really get the 'deposit' thing...It legally BINDS the seller to forsake all others AND it binds the buyer to buy the car or LOSE the deposit. Changing buyers mind is not an option..
How does any buyer think its 'right' to bind a seller without binding himself...It's not hold the car for me until I change my mind [good reason or not]
Called due diligence, and the buyer has to do his BEFORE the deposit. IMO.
Last edited by karkrafter; 06-23-2016 at 04:05 PM.
No, no I understand that...I question send $$ BEFORE you arrange to look at it.
I find buyers don't really get the 'deposit' thing...It legally BINDS the seller to forsake all others AND it binds the buyer to buy the car or LOSE the deposit. Changing buyers mind is not an option..
How does any buyer think its 'right' to bind a seller without binding himself...It's not hold the car for me until I change my mind [good reason or not]
Called due diligence, and the buyer has to do his BEFORE the deposit. IMO.
The money was for purchasing PARTS. A "purchase agreement" was never completely signed off. Money for parts. The MAIN "point" of this discussion thread was to warn others about an unscrupulous fraud posing as a classic car dealer.... And to avoid that particular car dealer like the plague. I am already "smarting"..... Please dont be the guy with the salt shaker
No, no I understand that...I question send $$ BEFORE you arrange to look at it.
I find buyers don't really get the 'deposit' thing...It legally BINDS the seller to forsake all others AND it binds the buyer to buy the car or LOSE the deposit. Changing buyers mind is not an option..
How does any buyer think its 'right' to bind a seller without binding himself...It's not hold the car for me until I change my mind [good reason or not]
Called due diligence, and the buyer has to do his BEFORE the deposit. IMO.
I've been in contact the Tennessee Attorney General's office and the lady that took my call, looked up the business and the business owner and found and read off to me, several YEARS worth of complaints against that man and his business practices.
Before I ever contacted Ron, I spotted the 1966 roadster on "Classiccars.com" ...... But it wasn't listed on his own website inventory, so I emailed him, asking if the 66 was still for sale. He responded that not only is it still available, but he ALSO has SEVERAL "MID YEAR" Vettes for sale, not a couple, but SEVERAL "MID YEAR CORVETTES!"
Compare his personal web page inventory, against his listed inventory at Classiccars.com..... What do you see? I didnt start to notice the difference until after I became suspicous. And yes, I do realize that a car can sell and it take a few days before the ad drops off of the "www.Classiccars.com" web site....... The two web sites indicated "inventory" do NOT jive with each other!
One of the Attorney General's verified complaints against Ron's Classic Cars is BAIT & SWITCH.
If I understand correctly, as soon as the buyer said he wanted someone to inspect the car, the seller started getting rude and upset. This raised a red flag to the buyer, wondering if there was something to hide. OP or Benton can correct me if that's wrong.
I have not had any dialogue with the seller nor have I seen the car.
Biting my tongue, based on what I've heard.
I cannot impose on you to be snoopy.... But IF you feel so inclined..... And if you do take it upon yourself, don't let Ron know "who" you are.... Just play it cool and snoop..... . .....and if you do, and want remain "incognito" ...LEAVE your 64 at home! But if you want to "tweek" him a-little, then by all means, take the 64!
06-22-2016, 02:09 PM
BUYER BEWARE!!!! Avoid "Ron's Classic Cars" in Soddy-Daisy, TN!!!
to admit my bonehead mistake, I should have proceeded with a little more caution.... sometimes, life lessons have to be learned the hard way. AVOID "RON'S CLASSIC CARS"... BUYER BEWARE!!!! 
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And if you do take it upon yourself, don't let Ron know "who" you are.... Just play it cool and snoop.....