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Old 09-09-2004, 10:33 AM
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hey found his vin number 1G1YY32G5X5106764
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Old 09-09-2004, 10:47 AM
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:10 AM
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRider98
Just got a call from the Salem PD. They are giving the information I sent to the Marion County Sheriff's office since the address is within their jurisdiction. The officer said this is theft by deception, and they can prosecute, especially since I have a copy of the cashiers check, a copy of an e-mail the seller sent verifying reciept of the payment, tag number, address, etc.
Cool It sounds like there may be a happy ending to this story
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:43 PM
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Need some help. I sent a cashiers check to a forum member over 2 weeks ago for some chrome wagon wheels. The seller was ordering new wheels from House of Wheels and was going to ship the wagons as soon as his new ones came in. We have been in contact up until last Thursday when he sent me an e-mail asking me to call him. I have called and left multiple messages, e-mailed, and sent a pm. No response. I don't want to post his name since I don't know his situation and am sensitive to unexpected things in life. I just want the wheels or my money back so I can hunt for another set! What do you guys think?

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Folks don't usually know this but:

Go to you bank ... NOW ... where you got the check. See if it has cleared. If not they can put a hold on it until you get it sorted out.

If the check has cleared your bank may still be able to help by contacting the bank where the check was deposited or cashed.

I have done this on two ocassions, and it does work.

Don't dilly dally ... NOW
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:28 PM
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[QUOTE=rbl]Go to you bank ... NOW ... where you got the check. See if it has cleared. If not they can put a hold on it until you get it sorted out.

If the check has cleared your bank may still be able to help by contacting the bank where the check was deposited or cashed./QUOTE]

I did as you said. The check was paid on 8/30. He cashed it on 8/27 in Seattle, WA at Bank of America. I now have a copy of the check to provide the Sheriff's office.
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Old 09-09-2004, 05:08 PM
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Go to you bank ... NOW ... where you got the check. See if it has cleared. If not they can put a hold on it until you get it sorted out.

If the check has cleared your bank may still be able to help by contacting the bank where the check was deposited or cashed.
I did as you said. The check was paid on 8/30. He cashed it on 8/27 in Seattle, WA at Bank of America. I now have a copy of the check to provide the Sheriff's office.
Forum members are great. There's always someone out there who has a lil more advice that helps us out!!

I hope everything falls into place for you.
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Old 09-09-2004, 05:10 PM
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Thanks Gray Fox. It still amazes me that the seller would choose to gamble with charges and arrest for a mere $365. Amazing!
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Old 09-09-2004, 11:46 PM
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Thanks Gray Fox. It still amazes me that the seller would choose to gamble with charges and arrest for a mere $365. Amazing!
Yeah...you'd think he'd be reading all of this too...he's gotta be sweating it knowing that the police will be visiting soon and this whole thing is going to get extremely expensive for him. Bail, lawyers, court fines & fees, probation fees (maybe jail time!)....not to mention the impact the criminal record will have on his future ability for employment...wow...such damage to your life for only $365?? That's just nuts.

Well, as another said, he's had ample opportunity to make it right. Make him pay for this mistake....he could have come forward at any point since this started. Too late now...
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Old 09-10-2004, 10:53 AM
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If this Joker is in the Army I would contact the Base Commander and enlighten him to all of this. I know from experence that Commanders DON'T like having this kind of crap dropped on their table. My ex-wife didn't want to pay her child support, but after 1 phone call and a couple of faxes to the general things just took care of them self (over night no less). Check with the nearest army recruiter and they can point you in the right direction.
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RedRider98
Thanks Gray Fox. It still amazes me that the seller would choose to gamble with charges and arrest for a mere $365. Amazing!


Something is very, very strange about all this. I notice that the Seller hasn't posted here since August 31st... but prior to that he posted rather regularly. He is a senior member with a lot of posts and a lot of time/history here. His signature shows that he is a member of a local group (see: www.mthoodcorvettes.com) and it is clear that he is not shy about showing off his Vette or giving out information that would enable folks to track him. In my mind, this simply does not fit the profile of the typical forum "parts for sale" scammer. Maybe I am dead wrong or have too much faith in my fellow man, but I'll bet this is eventually going to be exposed as a huge (but unintentional) dropping of the ball here...

Then again, I still believe in Santa Claus! He Da Man!!!

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Old 09-10-2004, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Monk


Something is very, very strange about all this. I notice that the Seller hasn't posted here since August 31st... but prior to that he posted rather regularly. He is a senior member with a lot of posts and a lot of time/history here. His signature shows that he is a member of a local group (see: www.mthoodcorvettes.com) and it is clear that he is not shy about showing off his Vette or giving out information that would enable folks to track him. In my mind, this simply does not fit the profile of the typical forum "parts for sale" scammer. Maybe I am dead wrong or have too much faith in my fellow man, but I'll bet this is eventually going to be exposed as a huge (but unintentional) dropping of the ball here...

Then again, I still believe in Santa Claus! He Da Man!!!

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If you go back and look at a picture of his car you'll notice that the rear view has the license plate whited out, it wasn't like that until after this thread popped up, this guy is a and needs to be banned and arrested
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:34 AM
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You know Monk, there is a part of me that feels the same way (not about Santa though, my parents blew that one long ago...). Everyday when I get home I hope to see a big box sitting on my front portch. I heard back from the President of the Mount Hood Corvette Club. He said the seller was not at the meeting last night, but he would try to track him down. I really still want to believe that I will get my wheels or the money back.

By the way, the bank told me yesterday that I can place a lien on his vehicle until I get the wheels or the money. Does anybody know how to do this?
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by runamuk
If you go back and look at a picture of his car you'll notice that the rear view has the license plate whited out, it wasn't like that until after this thread popped up, this guy is a and needs to be banned and arrested

This guy is not a very good criminal then! I saved the original ad and it has the license all over it! So, he can white out as much as he wants, I still have all his info: the tag, VIN, his address, cell phone number, and copies of the cashed check along with the e-mails he sent confirming receipt of the payment!
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by runamuk
If you go back and look at a picture of his car you'll notice that the rear view has the license plate whited out, it wasn't like that until after this thread popped up, this guy is a and needs to be banned and arrested
Yeah, I did notice that. I was hoping it was just a coincidence and not the icing on the cake of an intentional scam.

I still think it was too petty a theft to be intentional. And if he was trying to disappear... why wouldn't he have deleted his profile and photos all together?

If and when I ever decide to go crooked, I'm going to go for the *BIG* bucks!!!

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Old 09-10-2004, 01:07 PM
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I have just heard from the seller in this dispute. Here are the details I have:

> From: "Brian" <dabigbozman21@comcast.net>
> Date: 2004/09/10 Fri PM 12:57:36 EDT
> To: <jdwillis@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Re: Unresolved dispute with customer
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> thx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jdwillis@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Brian" <dabigbozman21@comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Unresolved dispute with customer
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> > Brian:
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> > Thanks for your response. I'll post a copy of this e-mail in the thread
> > so RedRyder98 and others will know your intentions since your posting
> > privileges have been restricted for the time being.
> >
> > Once you have mailed the money order by certified mail to RedRyder98,
> > please send him a tracking number by e-mail, copy to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim Willis
> > Corvetteforum.com
> >
> >>
> >> From: "Brian" <dabigbozman21@comcast.net>
> >> Date: 2004/09/10 Fri AM 11:41:18 EDT
> >> To: "Brian J. Balzer" <dabigbozman21@comcast.net>,
> >> <Mott918@cs.com>,
> >> <jdwillis@bellsouth.net>
> >> CC: <troy@corvetteforum.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Unresolved dispute with customer
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> >> OK, I'm back now. Due to all the vigilantism started I will not explain
> >> what
> >> happened but I did try and get ahold of Bryan (redryder) before I left. I
> >> will send out a money order today (certified mail) for $365. please know
> >> that I did not in anyway try and defraud anyone here!
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <jdwillis@bellsouth.net>
> >> To: <dabigbozman21@comcast.net>
> >> Cc: <troy@corvetteforum.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:12 PM
> >> Subject: Unresolved dispute with customer
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> >>
> >> > Forum member RedRyder98 is concerned because he has not been able to
> >> > get
> >> > in touch with you about the payment he made for a set of wheels you
> >> > were
> >> > selling on Corvetteforum.com on Aug. 16. He posted a thread recently
> >> > saying he wants his money back or a tracking number on the shipment of
> >> > the
> >> > wheels.
> >> >
> >> > I know there often is more than one side to a story. Can you give me
> >> > some
> >> > insight on what's going on? And is there anything I can do to get you
> >> > guys together on a resolution of the dispute that will be satisfactory
> >> > to
> >> > each of you?
> >> >
> >> > Jim Willis
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I'm locking the thread to prevent any further inappropriate remarks from those who are not directly involved in the transaction. But I'll continue to add updates to the thread as I have them from the seller and the buyer.

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Old 09-10-2004, 06:52 PM
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Here's another update:

The seller and buyer are communicating by e-mail. The seller has given the buyer the tracking number on a certified letter mailed about midday and the number on a Bank of America cashier's check.

The seller has apologized to the buyer for being away from home and unable to respond before now.
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Here's a final update:

> From: Mott918@cs.com
> Date: 2004/09/13 Mon PM 02:15:24 EDT
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> Cashiers check arrived today. Thank you Jim in your help resolving this
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> Bryan
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