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Default ZR1 Less than 900 RWHP on Dyno, but we found out why

A little FYI lesson for all…
In this video I take the ZR1 to the Dyno to see how much power this monster is making. The numbers caught me off guard till we figured out the cause.
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The cause was .... ?
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First dyno I’ve seen of ZR1 on 91 octane. Definitely makes a difference vs 93 octane. For us poor souls in the western states with 91 only there is a workaround. I fill my ZR1 with 91 octane non ethanol (sorry CA you are screwed) then drive about 30 miles and add 2-2.5 gallons of E85. Voila, 93.5+ octane at 15% ethanol, meeting GM’s max ethanol specifications. Goes like hell. I’m averaging 14.5 MPG with mostly around town driving. I get 18 MPG highway at 75 mph. I could care less about mileage.
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First dyno I’ve seen of ZR1 on 91 octane. Definitely makes a difference vs 93 octane. For us poor souls in the western states with 91 only there is a workaround. I fill my ZR1 with 91 octane non ethanol (sorry CA you are screwed) then drive about 30 miles and add 2-2.5 gallons of E85. Voila, 93.5+ octane at 15% ethanol, meeting GM’s max ethanol specifications. Goes like hell. I’m averaging 14.5 MPG with mostly around town driving. I get 18 MPG highway at 75 mph. I could care less about mileage.
We are lucky to have 94 octane at the pump here. I was thinking about adding a can of VP Octane Boost ( unleaded ) to each tank as well.
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The cause was .... ?
I explained the thoroughly multiple times in the video
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We have 91 octane here except one gas station carries 100 unleaded at the pump. I have a bone stock 26 ZR1. I filled it up with 8 gallons of 91 and 8 gallons of 100 unleaded and by the time i got home my car threw a CEL and died in my driveway. It then putted around making the absolute worst sounds and kept dying every few miles until i burned off about half the tank and then filled it up with 91, and everything went back to normal.

I used the same mixture in my bone stock 24 z06 countless times without any problems whatsoever. Anyone know why?
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Unless you got contaminated fuel for some reason- there is no way what you're describing is fuel related
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Originally Posted by arthursc2
Unless you got contaminated fuel for some reason- there is no way what you're describing is fuel related
i dunno, the only time it happened is right after i pumped the 100 and drove home (about 40 miles) and stopped as soon as i got rid of most of it, and has never happened since. I have about 2500 miles on it now.

Also, I pumped 4 5 gallon jugs of the stuff as well and put some in my AMG GLC63 to test it and there were no problems. I'm too scared to put it in my ZR1 again for now.
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High octane alone won't cause stalling and noise

low octane will cause noise, but not stalling unless a piston breaks

something else was going on. Any CEL?
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Originally Posted by arthursc2
High octane alone won't cause stalling and noise

low octane will cause noise, but not stalling unless a piston breaks

something else was going on. Any CEL?

Yes, the CEL showed cylinder misfire. Which never happened again after I filled it back up with the 91
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Originally Posted by m103114
I explained the thoroughly multiple times in the video
Expensive car to be playing those mad scientist games with buddy ... You trying to put GM warranty to the test ?

I think one can of VP octane boost per tank will raise you up to 94-95 octane and the car will be happy.
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Originally Posted by chrisM916vette
We have 91 octane here except one gas station carries 100 unleaded at the pump. I have a bone stock 26 ZR1. I filled it up with 8 gallons of 91 and 8 gallons of 100 unleaded and by the time i got home my car threw a CEL and died in my driveway. It then putted around making the absolute worst sounds and kept dying every few miles until i burned off about half the tank and then filled it up with 91, and everything went back to normal.

I used the same mixture in my bone stock 24 z06 countless times without any problems whatsoever. Anyone know why?
that's very unusual, I’ve done that mix with my Z06 no issues many many many times on street and on drag strip and on road course
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Originally Posted by chrisM916vette
Yes, the CEL showed cylinder misfire. Which never happened again after I filled it back up with the 91
I'm sorry that happened, but octane alone isn't responsible. Sounds like the fuel you got was bad or contaminated. Which isn't unheard of, esp in a low turn-over fuel like $9/gal 100 octane

Another possible theory is that the 100 octane was achieved by heavily mixing in ethanol and that threw off the cal enough to cause you issues. The car compensate for e15, maybe e20 on stock boost- but anything over that she's likely to run out of injector. To get base 91 to 100 you're looking at e30-e40. Probably not enough injector to compensate for that
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Hope fully not an issue here in PA. We have both 93 and 94 available. When I took my C8 to SEMA last year I struggled getting octane boost in the Vegas area as my C8 was modified with twin turbos and tuned for 93 octane.
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