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Old May 29, 2021 | 06:03 AM
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Default Rally Red 974 Lacquer

About two years ago - the components to make the real (leaded) DuPont-PPG formula Rally Red became nearly impossible to find.

Even before that, Hibernia was at $2500 a gallon at the point they discontinued it June 2018.

I have several fresh gallons available, the master DuPont PPG paint chip dated from 1965, all the real deal PPG.

Message me ONLY if you understand real cost in 2018 and its now 2021.
and are ready to purchase - now PPG Quarts $1200.00
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New Price $950 per quart plus FEDEX or UPS
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When PPG/Duont discontinued the Orange that contained some lead that makes it look and flow like rally red lacquer should,

I contacted every dealer in the paint network across the entire USA to obtain any and all rally red components.

Quart price above. They tell me cars take 2-2.5 gallons, message me and we go from there.

A quart will do survivor touch up for the stone chips and nicks...and according to the shops I know that have done this to 66 BB cars out east, its very hard to detect.
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How much do you have?

Problem is that none of the red oxide lacquer primer is available either, nor is the gray primer sealer.

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The red oxide is not primer
its a primitive epoxy sealer


The blue gray primer … critical to achieve proper red color due to reds naturally being translucent can be easily made, you have to know

red oxide primer was still available as was a gray base that you then make blue gray
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The red oxide was most definitely a primer. There is nothing “epoxy” about it. It WAS baked on, which is probably the reason it is so difficult to remove. The gray sealer was sanded after application… Often to the extent that it was almost removed completely. I’ve spoken to guys who worked painting these cars. The products just mentioned were lacquer based (back when the lacquer was good).

Didn’t mean to get into a tangent on primers. Good luck with your sale.

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the red oxide sealer was Not lacquer

Someone here can post its technical name, Ncrs etc has it John Hinckley Darrick’s on the process

Completely incorrect

I have red oxide primer and it’s wrong material to put on raw mid 60s fiberglass, it does not seal the surface and remains thermoplastic, not cured

I was about to go into the chemistry of lacquer, but let’s leave it that heat doesn’t make it hard to remove
lacquers flow in heat
at GM we had flowcoat ovens, smooth as glass after bake

They are thermoplastic and remain thermoplastic

regardless the materials to identically replicate original are available


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Straight from the GM Engineering Center… Both red and gray coats were considered primer (#2). While listed for 1963 to 1967 Corvettes, it would have held true for all St. Louis built C3s as well that used lacquer paint. There is no mention of the chemical composition, but I’d be willing to bet that the process was more evaporative (like lacquer) than catalytic (like epoxy). However, without having any documentation as to the exact make up, I can’t provide proof on this aspect and am open to options.


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